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Speed Camera detection for just £34.99

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    [May 8, 2014]
    Hi all,

    Just wanted to make all you 8V owners aware of this deal currently on groupon:

    Inforad K2 Speed Camera Warning System for £34.99

    I have read a lot of reviews on Amazon etc and people only really have good things to say about it, even when compared with Road Angel etc.... infact one review said it picked up a camera that Road Angel didnt.

    Anyway i have bought one seems as they are only £34.99 and you get free life time updates.....will report back when it arrives.

    Has anyone had any experience with these before?

    Thanks

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    So how does that work? Is it just the gadget shown and you just place it on your dash?
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    Yeah i believe so, it is about the size of a usb stick.

    Some reviews state that it works when it is in the cigarette socket, but most either mount it on the top of the rear view mirror or just wedge it at the bottom of the windscreen.

    It beeps and flashes when you come into a known speed camera aream, if you are over the limit then a siren sounds. Then it beeps and flashes again when you are clear of the area.

    Very simple, but i guess it is all you need really.
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    Looks like it's just GPS, so just works on known locations of cameras.
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    The from experience or...?
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    yes
    its just a gps database
    gaffer put them in all his lorrys.
    they would go off for no reason and not go off when needed.
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    From what i have read they will go off for all known locations of speed cameras whether they are there or not, this includes mobile cameras.

    You can then just remove that location from the registered locations when you plug it into a computer so it doesnt go off at that location again.
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    Get a snooper, end of !!
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    I find the even cheaper alternative is not to break the speed limit.
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    Most speed camera databases work using the GPS location of camera sites. The PGPSW database I use is updated every couple of weeks and I can choose whether to have a warning for known sites used for mobile devices, but that means it beeps at almost every lay-by!!. The laser detector type can be better for mobile locations but the problem is often that by the time the unit has registered the presence of the laser the police have already recorded you speed.

    One of the reasons I like driving in Germany is because they don't have the same 'speed camera' mentality as the UK. In all the years I've been going to Germany I think I have only ever seen one speed camera. Their government obviously raises money using other methods!!
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    I suppose the other way would be to but an electric car :)
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    I bought an Inforad K1 second hand from eBay for £12 delivered. It alerts me to all speed cameras in my local area. I have yet to take it on any trips but it bodes well. Sits just behind the cup holders and doesn't move around at all. Battery seems to last a decent while too.
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    Sounds good.

    In this week's Auto Express there is a test on eight different options for detecting speed cameras. Some run on a smartphone but their Best Buy is a unit called a Cheetah C50. This is 870 x 540 x 20mm so it's quite small so it would probably fit behind the cup holders. It is fed by a USB cable which could be plugged in to the 12v socket with a very short lead or be connected to the back of the socket and the wiring kept out of sight. It costs £85.00 plus the £19.99 for three years full-access for updates. It can give a visual and audible warnings. How up to date their database is kept I don't know.

    Has anyone used one of these ?
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    I had a snooper but it didn't pick up a speed camera van a couple of years ago and i got done for doing 37 in 30 !
    So i sold the thing on ebay.
    Apparently they change the frequencies over in the speed camera van so sometimes the camera detectors do not pick them up.
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    I have had one of those K2s for a while..... Got it after my speed awareness course.

    Its pretty good for what it costs. I keep it in the lighter socket with a USB adaptor, as the rechargeable battery doesn't last long. And I just use it on longer journeys/unfamiliar roads.

    Updating is a bit clunky.

    But all in all, worth the money - and has alerted me to a few cameras I hadn't seen.
    It's particularly useful if you approach a camera unaware what the speed limit is, as it will go off if you are going over the limit.
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    Assume this is a typo? 870x540x20 would be about the size of a doormat.
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    [May 8, 2014]
    Just get CamerAlert for your smart phone! £20 for 12 months subscription, updated fortnightly and from the most complete database in the world PocketGPSWorld.com
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    Yes looking at the Cheetah website it should be 87x54x20mm. Sounds a bit more manageable :)
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    I agree about thr PGPSW database. It is very good and gets updated very quickly when new cameras appear. I use this database on my TomTom unit. It's also very easy to update. As I have reported new cameras in the past I now have a free lifetime subscription.
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    After trying maybe a dozen different GPS camera detection options over the years, the two main criteria for me are as follows:

    1. Is the database good? However good the hardware is, it'll be useless if the database isn't accurate and up to date. The databases largely rely on crowd-sourcing for their data, and since there isn't a single dominant database provider for the whole of Europe, it's an important consideration. For example, I've found the PGPSW database to be the best in the UK, however it's relatively weak in other European countries (where it doesn't have many users). Conversely, in France and Belgium, Coyote is by far and away the market leader. In Germany, POIbase is very strong. As most of you guys are in the UK, I'd recommend the PGPSW database, since it works well in the UK, and it doesn't matter if you get flashed in France, Belgium, or anywhere else for that matter. The UK doesn't share number-plate data with other countries. For myself, the UK doesn't matter, but both France and the Netherlands have reciprocal agreements with Belgium, so I need to make sure those three countries are well covered.

    2. Is the hardware configurable? Some basic units will report all cameras, regardless of the direction of travel. I recently bought POIbase's own-model unit, and it isn't configurable at all. The beep is far too loud (and can't be changed in either tone or volume), to the extent that I end up switching it off. It sounds when 500m from a camera, regardless of speed. On motorways, this can be too little, in slow-moving town traffic, it can be an eternity of ear-piercing beeps! Many years ago I bought the Inforad unit the OP mentioned. It would be unfair of me to dismiss it, as I can't really remember much about it. However, the fact that it only stayed in my car for a couple of days before being chucked in the box in the attic (you know, the one with all the old mobiles, laptop chargers, USB cables and so on) means that I couldn't get along with it for some reason.

    The best options I've found so far are smartphone apps, which tend to be very configurable (warnings based on time instead of distance, different alert sounds and volume...). However, I want an always-on solution and these apps kill your battery life, not to mention warming up your phone (and whatever is next to it when in your pocket!). I may end up buying a cheap/second-hand smartphone just to leave plugged in inside the car.
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    I can't seem to find a Camera or location that isn't already on the database :( ...not that I want to be tripped up by one either.

    Set it so when you open it, Google or Apple maps opens as well and you're ready to go. :thumbsup:
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    I tend to agree with this mostly. However in a quiet and smooth car like the A3, when you're concentrating on heavy traffic or looking for something in an unfamiliar area it's easy to creep inadvertently sufficiently over the limit to trigger a camera. Bearing in mind they are called safety cameras and not speed cameras (or revenue generating devices) then to be warned about an area with elevated risk is no bad thing.

    Anything that would help is a bonus.
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    Would the phone ap work if the phone was in the centre console?

    Steve
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    Depends on the quality of the phone's GPS receiver and the material of the centre console and anything else in its line of sight. However, my iPhone 4S works fine inside the armrest of my car (it has a sunroof, which might make a difference).
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    I agree. I also don't like to 'drive by numbers' and much prefer to drive to suit the location and conditions a rather than a speed limit set, often for local political reasons, rather than anything else.

    The latest 'scam' of so call 'speed awareness course' has only been introduction since the camera partnerships were no longer allowed to keep the money from fines. All the fines money now has to be paid directly to the exchequer whereas they are allow to keep the money you pay to attend one of the courses.

    When I was caught some time ago by a camera van hidden in the shadows under a motorway bridge I was offered a speed awareness course but I wrote and said I would rather pay the fine and accept the 3 points than help to fund speed cameras. I also wrote to the Chief Constable for the area saying I thought the location of the camera van was 'not appropriate' as although the speed limit was 30mph the road should not really be limited to 30. I did receive a letter back saying they had looked at the location and had decided that, although my fine would stand, they would not use this particular location again. It is near where my Mother lives and I noticed in her local paper there is now a local campaign to get the limit raised to at least 40 mph.
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    Just don't speed? Thats free.
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    Test it! leave the phone in the armrest when you have access to a Computer and try the "find my phone" app from Android\Apple\Windows ...if it finds it, you'll know the GPS is receiving a satellite signal.
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    And boring :)
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    The faster the speed the bigger the mess.
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    So do I assume you drive everywhere at 20mph as it's safer speed to hit an other vehicle than 30 or 40 or 50 or 60 or even 70mph.

    Personally I drive to suit the location and conditions. Sometimes it's less the speed limit and sometimes it's more. Not all accidents are the result of speed. Far more are caused by lack of concentration caused by boredom.
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    I had you down as a more considerate driver after reading your posts in the Hold-Assist/Break Light thread :)
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    I do consider myself as a considerate driver but if the conditions and location are correct I have not qualms about exceed some speed limits. I tend to drive around 80-85 mph on the motorway and some dual carriageways and 60-70 mph on most single carriageway roads where no reason to drive slower exists. If I'm in a town then 30-35 mph is my norm and if I'm passing a school at leaving line it's often quite a bit less.

    My point is mainly that blanket speed limits are often wrong. I find the continental speed limit of 80mph much better that our 70mph. The problem is also that on some roads the speed limit appears to go up and down and back up again for no particular reason. To me the most important things is to concentrate and drive in accordance with the conditions and location rather than just stick some rather random limit, often ones set in the days on the Morris Minor.

    The UK uses speed limits on main roads rather than improve the basic road or close cross-overs. A classic example is near where I live where they have just imposed a 60mph speed limit and put up average speed cameras on the A1 dual-carriageway because some drivers are totally unable to judge traffic speed and pull out of a junction, cross the central reservation and then poodle along at 30mph in the outside lane because there is already traffic in the inside lane. And as for drivers who drive just below the limit in the centre or outside lane of a motorway thinking the are so good because they are not exceeding the limit. Perhaps they should try reading the Highway Code.

    Traffic generally drivers much faster on a German autobahn but I always feel a lot safer because they seem to know how to drive properly. Also where there are speed limited section on the autobahn most drivers obey them because they know they are they for a reason and were not imposed to save fuel during a long ago fuel crisis.

    If I'd wanted to 'poodle' around all day I would not have purchased an A3 with a 184 engine and quattro drive and if I drove with no consideration for other drives I sure I would have had some accidents in my nearly 40 years of driving. As it is the only accidents I have been involved in have been where other drivers who were not concentrating have driven into the back of my car when I have been stationery.
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    [May 9, 2014]
    Amen to that Brother.
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    Lol - what a long winded response - you need to get out in your car more :) Just a bit hypocritical imho. You can hardly quote the law when you think it appropriate and then break it!

    As a senior member perhaps you ought to consider your responsibilities - am very suprised that you go out in public stating you break the law.
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    If you've never broken a speed limit, you're not a driver - so those that claim they drive, but never speed are mostly lying & are therefore untrustworthy ...you people make me sick & should be locked up for treachery. :jester:
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    Think you have totally missed my point but will not post a long winded reply to explain.
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    you sound just like someone that got banned recently ...no joke.
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    Think you have totally missed the point of the original topic, it wasn't about the righteous giving there 2p's...
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    Back to topic :wtf:

    In the UK, I use PGPSW database on the phone. You can either overlay it within the TomTom app or use the dedicated speed camera app.

    Had a snooper once and the database was out of date all the time. My thoughts would be the smaller and cheaper the system, the less care in maintaining (and checking) the database. If a set of SPECS go up it takes probably less than a week for the database on PGPSW to be updated.

    Why do the road atlases all show that database ?

    Phone picks up GPS fine when propped at front of centre console, I've got a Breffo spider there but have recently fitted another Breffo into the vent duct for the drivers window. Holds the phone perfectly and all I had to do was run an power extension under the steering wheel.
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