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Discussion in 'A4/A4 cabriolet/S4 forum(B6 chassis)' started by deanski, May 7, 2012.

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    [May 7, 2012]
    hello all. my alloys disappear under the arches so the time has come for some spacers. what would i need if my wheels are 7.5J x 17H2ET45? and who's best to get some hubcentrics from?

    thanks guys.
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    I'd aim for 10mm on 7.5J's to sit at ET35, some might advise you more but I think thats OTT.

    H&R spacers from DPM Performance are a good bet.
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    I'd say 10mm front and 15mm rear.

    Give me a shout if you need any prices.

    Damian @ DPM Performance
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    [May 8, 2012]
    I may need 10mm spacers to fit my S4 brakes. Would 10mm spacers fit hubcentricely(?) or just longer bolts?

    Thanks
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    I'm going to disagree with you all now..... My rims are 7.5 J 17" and et 43 and i've got 20mm spacers all round ... here's the result... granted the fronts go out further than the rears so maybe i could have got away with 15mm up front but i figured same front and rear keeps it all the same and they don't stick out past the arches and i get no fouls... plus it's pretty low on sport suspension ...

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    They look spot on mate.
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    looks nice that.
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    [May 8, 2012]
    H&R TRAK+ are very nicely machined and a great lightweight alloy... but they are pricey.

    I think you need to go for about 12mm for hubcentric, but you should be able to tell from the price, if not the description: whichever it is, hubcentric is the recommended option!!

    Also - PLEASE be careful with the longer bolts: I picked the wrong ones* on my Golf a few years back and ripped out the ABS sensors!!

    * the previous owner had fitted the wrong bolts (I think they were rounded / conical, can't recall exactly which way around) and I had measured the bolts once for length and then looked at the wheels separately to see which shaped bolt I needed: the new bolts were previous length + 12mm... and now the right shape, but they sat so much deeper into the sockets that they went all the way through until they pushed into the ABS rings... and ripped them to shreds as soon as I moved the car :(
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    H&R do hubcentric spacers from (I think..) about 6mm, but it's 10mm before they have the small lip on them.

    It's just a matter of balancing wheel width and offset with spacer size to get the stance you like. There are plenty of people on here who run a much wider stance with stretched tyres than the look I favour. An 8J wheel is obviously 1/2 inch (13mm) wider than a 7.5J - so will lower the equivalent offset by 6.5mm - thus an ET43 8J wheel will stick out 6.5mm more than an ET43 7.5J one.

    Just some figures to take into account doing your calculations.
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    Working out wheel bolt length take 27mm and add the spacer size onto it then round it up if needed. So with a 10mm spacer your looking at 37mm go up to a 40mm for piece of mind. also as has been said get the right seat for the wheels OEM and rounded/conical and after market are 60 degree taper.
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    If you order the TPI spacers we sell they know what longer bolts you need if we tell them what car they are going on. Makes it easier all round, save you having to source your own. They also do extended locking bolts.

    We do 3, 5, 12, 15, 20 & 25mm TPI spacers. Looking at the pics above I'd go for 15mm front and 20mm rear actually.
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    I agree with GNJ on the sizes.... i didn't need 20 up front 1 point to note though and i don't know if it matters but mines an Avant and Quattro dunno if that makes any diff to the wheel track i wouldn't have thought so
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    [May 25, 2012]
    sorry for the slight thread highjack, but I'm keen to make sure I choose the right bolts this time... what are the default A4 bolts? Conical / tapered? What length?

    This thread got me thinking that I REALLY need to get a bit more offset on my Winter wheels: I'm pretty sure that they're 7.5J and ET54 (they do look pretty narrow).... I know I can go and take a wheel of to double-check before I get around to fitting them, just shopping around right now.

    I'm thinking 12mm or 15mm H&R Trak+, but i'll get a kit for all 4 together including the blots, locking bolts will probably ahve to be ordered separately...

    Summer wheels are 8J and ET45 (S4 Avus III's)... and they're pretty much spot-on, maybe a few mm in it... 7.5J vs 8J and there's already 13mm wheel width difference, so lets say they sit 6mm further in... and the 9mm offset difference.... so I'm guessing 15mm will get me exactly the same as I have right now with my summer wheels :)
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