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    [Jan 17, 2008]
    ok, i know there has been a few threads on here recently about the dreaded sludge and i need some clarification on the subject, so forgive me if i sound a bit thick...

    my motor is going itno get a new clutch fitted and as a precautionary method, i have asked the garage to change the pipe which has the filter in it. now i'm getting 2 different stories here and i hope you lot can clear it up for me.

    the audi dealer story (car booked on for monday 28th - can still cancel)
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    they state that the engine breather pipes are what needs to be changed, as this is the part with the filter in it from the oil pump. they are quoting me £419.16 all-in to do the job. when i spoke to them this morning, i asked them to replace the oil pump atthe same time - as the sump would be off anyway, this way i am covering all corners. the bloke then said that there was no need to replace the pump at this stage (car was in last week and oil pressure was good) and that the sump doesn't come off.

    are they thinking of a different pipe?

    the audi specialist:

    he says he replaces the "sludge pipe" quite a lot on the 1.8T's and says the sub-frame needs to be lowered to get the sump off, this will allow the pipe to be replaced and whilst doing the job, replace the pump as it is worthwhile doing at the same time. if the pump were to fail at a later date, then i'd need to go through all the mess again. included in the job would be a new filter and fresh oil, after a thourough flush. he is asking for £406.55 incl vat for the job.



    it sounds to me like the audi dealership has got the wrong end of the stick to me, but as i'm a bit of a novice, it is difficult to describe what i want done. i don't want to have the nightmare some of you guy's are having with the sludge problem, so i'm just covering my ass i suppose and not wanting any future problems. the car has covered just over 89k miles. sorry for the long post, but this is the best way that i can describe my situation. i don't need to get the pipe replaced and there is no indication that i am about to have a problem.

    cheers
    jason
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    J7USS Shuddup Foooool!!

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    [Jan 17, 2008]
    Thats why I asked on your other thread Why the Breather Pipes!!
    Righ then....Forget the STealers mate, They are just squeezing you for plenty of money.
    Im sure the Oil pick up pipe is only £12 or so, Thats what my specialist told me when I had mine done and the Specialist you got a quote from sounds about right, Infact Ive heard specialists charging more than that. Thats roughly how much it would have cost me if I had beaten the dreaded Bang!!

    So yes Go with your specialist, He makes more sense and I know you say that you have no problem at the minute and no sign but trust me, Its worth getting them changed as you dont want my nightmares aswell as other who have suffered the same, So for £400 odd Id be having it done and yours is Approaching the mileage where this sludge issue tends to bite you most (this is from my research Id done before)
    As said before, This issue seems to be getting more common and Id rather pay the Specialist just fo peice of mind!!:icon_thumright:
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    [Jan 17, 2008]
    this is how the stealer described it to me - i was a bit uncertain when i was there, but i am gradually starting to get to know more about these unpredictable engines as i go along.

    i think i'll go with the specialist afterall. makes more sense, plus he is cheaper.

    your a saint!!!!

    jason
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    Yeah good man,You doing the right thing!!:icon_thumright:
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    [Jan 20, 2008]
    these need doing on the tdi ? oil pick up pipe etc,etc
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    [Jan 22, 2008]
    My avant (AVJ) has covered 80k miles and the dreaded oil warning lamp came on just as i was going to Autosport lastweek!!!!

    Nursed it home - no noises or anything, but thats deffo a case of oil sludge and needs to be worked on. I took the view that the pump and pick up will need to be changed.

    Got the pick up, seal and oil filter for £18 from the dealers.
    They disnt have an oil pump - as they were on back order (parts chap said "they've had a run on these lately!!!!"), so got one from another supplier!

    ...just when i thought the A4 was doing really well!!
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    J7USS Shuddup Foooool!!

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    [Jan 22, 2008]
    These AVJ Engines seem to suffer from this alot!!

    Hey, Post some pics of your avant up mate, That kit is **** hot...
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    [Jan 22, 2008]
    Thanks man! :)

    I dont really have many pics of it tbh... I'll see what i can do for you :)

    The more i look into it, these AVJs seem to be a bit of trouble.
    Having said that the Passat i had before (also 1.8T) suffered an oil pump failure!!!

    All this AVS and longlife that might have something to do with it....??
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    Good man!:icon_thumright:

    I was told that the Longlife was the cause of mine and that was an Audi tech,He told me also that it seems to be coming alot more common and he's repaired quite alot due to this sludge.

    I took mine off longlife and get regular services now.
    Cant be too careful these days eh!

    :cool:
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    [Jan 22, 2008]
    whats AVJ?
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    [Jan 22, 2008]
    thats the 1st 3 letters of the engine code.

    hope that helps mate :)
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    [Jan 22, 2008]
    ah right, how can i tell which mine is?
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    [Jan 22, 2008]
    Check your Spec manual mate!
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    [Jan 22, 2008]
    2 quick ways....

    1. Log book...

    2. white data sticker in the boot...

    Are the engine numbers on the cam covers?? Cant remember if mine is there! doh...
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    [Jan 22, 2008]
    Out of curiosity just checked my log book and nothing starts with AVJ, i'll check the boot in morning. Too cold to go out now.
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    [Jan 22, 2008]
    ...lol, yeah - do it when its warmer :)
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    [Jan 23, 2008]
    I dont think yours will be AVJ Pav, Think the AVJ was used 2001 - 2002 models!
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