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    This board is usually busy, busy! Where is everybody?
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    Maybe we've run out of things to say. Or maybe the glut of new A3 owners is slowing and everyone knows what they need to know. Or maybe we're all having sex. Not with each other.
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    I have been thinking the same all day! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsdown.gif
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    cause were all going to the audi international tomoz!!! lol
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    dull as cheese
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    Or everyone is fixing their annoying rattles!
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    i am playing with my new apple,then pub.

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    still waiting for a loud exhaust for the 3.2 /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif apart from the not so loud milltech one /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
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    It isn't just me - for a moment I was worried that people might have defected to that USA orientated forum "fourtitude", but there are no familar names over there - sad bunch too /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh_roll.gif
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    Busy browsing other manufacturers sites myself.. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
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    me too,lexus or bmw next i think,bit disapointed with the audi experience,also been looking at lcd tv's,although this can be harder than buying a car.
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    im stuck between a samsung or sony 40"lcd at the moment,both hd ready,that bit i cant wait for when it finaly arrives
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    I was worried that people might have defected to that USA orientated forum "fourtitude"

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    Fourtitude and VWVortex (they share forums) are actually very good technically if you can fight your way through all the bitching. What is it with yanks.... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bang.gif

    I tend to flit between here, Cupranet and Tyresmoke during the day... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ok.gif
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    Samsung's seem to cost less than the competition,but I've never been impressed with their stuff.
    Mate of mine bought a Samsung CRT and it suffered from terrible casing buzz.
    Put me clean off their stuff for life.

    Doesn't matter if it's a TV or a car.
    If it rattles,it annoys me !
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    i do like the sony,but its a bit more than the samsung,and apparently uses the same screen as the,

    i hate ratles too,which is why im fed up with audi's at the moment
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    people on here really aren't too impressed with the latest release of audi's are they! I seems that i read negative comments on them every day on here, and having waded through them, i think i'd have to agree.

    Its a real shame, as i really liked my b5 a4, and still enjoying my 8L S3. For my next choice i was hoping for a b7 S or RS4.. but looks like the audi fanbase is dwindling....
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    i do like the sony,but its a bit more than the samsung,and apparently uses the same screen as the,

    i hate ratles too,which is why im fed up with audi's at the moment

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    there are only two major manufacturers of TFT LCD panels in the world. Chances are that most TFT panels you may own are samsung. And as they make them themselves, i cant see them using anything but grade A panels in their own kit.
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    The 'audi fanbase' may be dwindling on here, but Audi are selling more cars than ever, both in the UK and elsewhere.

    Perhaps there cars are a little restrained for the type of people who look into this type of forum.

    I personally love my 8P A3 and if I had to change my car tomorrow would not hestitate to order another one. I also get excellent service from my dealer.
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    mmm,i suppose i would be paying a £500 premium on the sony then for cosmetics,that quite a lot?
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    The 'audi fanbase' may be dwindling on here, but Audi are selling more cars than ever, both in the UK and elsewhere.

    Perhaps there cars are a little restrained for the type of people who look into this type of forum.

    I personally love my 8P A3 and if I had to change my car tomorrow would not hestitate to order another one. I also get excellent service from my dealer.

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    im just a bit dissapointed that a car that cost £23000,and is 7 months old has rattles and windows that creek like a wooden ship in a gale,it ruins the driving experience,
    my passat that i had before was the same and i had that from new,
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    i do like the sony,but its a bit more than the samsung,and apparently uses the same screen as the,

    i hate ratles too,which is why im fed up with audi's at the moment

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    there are only two major manufacturers of TFT LCD panels in the world. Chances are that most TFT panels you may own are samsung. And as they make them themselves, i cant see them using anything but grade A panels in their own kit.

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    Without checking,I'm not really in a position to argue,but I would take this statement with a pinch of salt.

    Even if Samsung are one of only two manufacturers of the screens themselves,the fact that the other manufacturers add their own processing systems to the screens makes a helluva difference.

    Put it this way,I can't remember many/any Samsung LCD TV's winning awards in the specialist press.

    Hitachi,Sony and Panasonic have though.
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    mmm,i suppose i would be paying a £500 premium on the sony then for cosmetics,that quite a lot?

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    depends really on how important styling is to you. For me, unfortuntately, styling is very important - so if the choice was between the 2, i'd be a label whore and buy the sony... even though i know the others are technically as competent, if not more so.

    Its a shame that other companies dont produce such aesthetically pleasing designs, or go and ruin it with some unneccesarily large garish addition.

    I think Sony's main problem is that they're a halfway house between budget and people like B&O. The only problem is while they may look better than the budget, their features and technical ability does not justify their price tag.. Its not even as if Sony have their bombproof reliability to fall back on now either.
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    [Oct 24, 2005]
    Shouldn't all this discussion about televisions etc be in the AV forum rather than the A3 forum.
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    The 'audi fanbase' may be dwindling on here, but Audi are selling more cars than ever, both in the UK and elsewhere.

    Perhaps there cars are a little restrained for the type of people who look into this type of forum.

    I personally love my 8P A3 and if I had to change my car tomorrow would not hestitate to order another one. I also get excellent service from my dealer.

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    You're happy David,and that's great,but can I ask if you ever actually check the competition when you come to renewal time ?

    I dare say,if you don't look elsewhere,then Audi will look very good indeed.
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    I too would have another A3 tomorrow if it was up for renewal, if I wait a couploe of months and have moved into my new house then I will would go for an a4 I think in similar spec to my 3 as the garage I have at the moment isn;t bug enough to fit an a4 but new one has a nice bige, no I man huge double garage (double dorred not just really long!)

    Yes I do look at the competition and I looked at other manufactures when I ordered my current a3 last december. There are other cars on the market but the audi does everything just about right for me.

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    I too would have another A3 tomorrow if it was up for renewal

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    Same here, getting A3 2.0 TDI next week after 13 months of using an A3 1.6, the cars done 14000 miles without a rattle or a knock, at time of ordering (3 months ago) it was a toss up between the TDI or a Golf GTI but the insurance was horrendous on the Golf, tried friends 1-series but didnt do anything for me (although had far stronger residuals).....

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    I too would have another A3 tomorrow if it was up for renewal, if I wait a couploe of months and have moved into my new house then I will would go for an a4 I think in similar spec to my 3 as the garage I have at the moment isn;t bug enough to fit an a4 but new one has a nice bige, no I man huge double garage (double dorred not just really long!)
    J.

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    Were you in a rush when you typed this, or have your fingers just fallen off? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
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    hes got the rattley finger syndrome, lol
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    It's got me thinking..
    I've never actually bought the same car twice (or not directly from one to another anyway).
    As far as I can remember (all company cars);

    Peugeot 305 diesel estate (handmedown)
    Ford Sierra Estate (handmedown)
    Renault 19 (first new car which I chose)
    Vauxhall Cavalier Sri 130 (liked that)
    Rover 214si (free cardigan and slippers)
    VW Golf 1.4 (hated it,so sloooow)
    Rover 220 Gti (one of the best handling)
    VW golf Gti (2.0 8 valve)
    Saab 900 coupe (dull)
    VW Golf Gti turbo (1.8 20 valve)
    Alfa Romeo 156 (tax rules forced sale)
    Audi A4 1.9 tdi 130 sport (very basic)
    Audi A3 sportback 2.0 tdi (hmmm...)

    Variety is the spice of life.
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    Another whinge I'm afraid....

    I bought my A3 2 years ago and was without it for 7 weeks because of the legendary wiper problem, the dealers near me are useless and the car rattles all the time. This is not what I'd expect from a premium car manufacturer.

    My previous A3 was great and I had no problems with it, but build quality has gone down hill with the 8P model.

    The only reason I'm sticking with my car at the moment is that there's nothing else out there for a similar price that I fancy. I'm tempted to wait for the new TT next year (assuming that the coupe version is prettier than the shooting brake thing), but the same issues will be there with the dealers and I'm not optimistic about the build quality either.

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    Try a different dealer?

    Mines been superb. And when they did /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/swear.gif up, I was well compensated.
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    I must admit I've been a bit of a VAG man since 1976 with either a Golf or an Audi, all bought with my own money. The list is as follows:

    Honda C90 scooter - 1964
    Austin Minivan - 1965
    Austin Mini - 1966 - used for my honeymoon in Cornwall !
    Singer Chamois - 1967
    Hilman Imp Sport - 1968 - my first new car
    Austin 1300 GT - 1971
    Triumph Dolomite - 1973 - by far the worst car I ever owned
    Volkswagen Golf Mk1 1.6GL - 1976
    Volkswagen Golf Mk1 GTI (1.6) - 1980
    Volkswagen Golf Mk1 GTI (1.8) - 1983
    Volkswagen Golf Mk2 GTI - 1995didn't really like - changed quickly
    Audi 80 Sport - 1985 - written-off in accident in Germany
    Audi 80 Sport - 1987
    Audi 80 1.8E - 1988
    Audi 90 2.3E - 1991
    Volkswagen Golf VR6 - 2.3 - 1994 very nice car
    Audi A3 1.8T Sport - 1998
    Audi A3 1.8T Sport - 2000
    Audi A3 1.8T Sport - 2003
    Audi A3 1.8T Sport - all very nice
    Audi A3 2.0 TDI SE DSG - best yet, mostly because of the DSG
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    i do like the sony,but its a bit more than the samsung,and apparently uses the same screen as the,

    i hate ratles too,which is why im fed up with audi's at the moment

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    there are only two major manufacturers of TFT LCD panels in the world. Chances are that most TFT panels you may own are samsung. And as they make them themselves, i cant see them using anything but grade A panels in their own kit.

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    Without checking,I'm not really in a position to argue,but I would take this statement with a pinch of salt.

    Even if Samsung are one of only two manufacturers of the screens themselves,the fact that the other manufacturers add their own processing systems to the screens makes a helluva difference.

    Put it this way,I can't remember many/any Samsung LCD TV's winning awards in the specialist press.

    Hitachi,Sony and Panasonic have though.

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    Quite true - as with most PC parts ,these LCD panels are made by 2 or 3 suppliers. As to why some get different reviews, less to do with whose "processing" systems (This is part of the LCD panel by the way, its so integrated into the panel its scary) and more to do with the incredibly biased world of journo's - who gives them a better bung i'm afraid (and more afraid that people believe their schmuck!)
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    Try a different dealer?

    Mines been superb. And when they did /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/swear.gif up, I was well compensated.

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    Beechwood Audi in Halesowen is the worst garage I've ever dealt with (too many cock-ups to mention, but one classic example is when they broke something on my car and didn't mention it to me until a couple of weeks later when the replacement part arrived). Or there's the time when they scratched my bonnet.....

    I tried Stratford Audi next as they were recommended to me, and when they serviced my car they forgot to reset the service indicator. They also failed to fix my rear brake light when in blew; they suggested it was something to do with the bulb warning system, when in fact all it needed was a new bulb. Great!

    So in a month's time I'm trying Listers in Worcester. Fingers crossed they might restore my faith in Audi dealers!
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    Try a different dealer?

    Mines been superb. And when they did /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/swear.gif up, I was well compensated.

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    Beechwood Audi in Halesowen is the worst garage I've ever dealt with (too many cock-ups to mention, but one classic example is when they broke something on my car and didn't mention it to me until a couple of weeks later when the replacement part arrived). Or there's the time when they scratched my bonnet.....

    I tried Stratford Audi next as they were recommended to me, and when they serviced my car they forgot to reset the service indicator. They also failed to fix my rear brake light when in blew; they suggested it was something to do with the bulb warning system, when in fact all it needed was a new bulb. Great!

    So in a month's time I'm trying Listers in Worcester. Fingers crossed they might restore my faith in Audi dealers!

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    Listers='Pants', I live really close to Stratford and actually got my last Audi Cab 18,000 service done at the Audi dealer in Leicester - a while you wait job. They were excellent - genuinely exceeded my expectations.
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    Cosmicblue,

    I agree with you on Leicester Audi. When Reg Vardy had the franchise the place was a joke. I used to drive to Autohaus Audi in Northampton for servicing. Then they lost the franchise and Vindis opened up as Northampton Audi and they went downhill FAST. Since John Fox took over at Leicester the place has changed for the better and both the sales and service are excellent.
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    i do like the sony,but its a bit more than the samsung,and apparently uses the same screen as the,

    i hate ratles too,which is why im fed up with audi's at the moment

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    there are only two major manufacturers of TFT LCD panels in the world. Chances are that most TFT panels you may own are samsung. And as they make them themselves, i cant see them using anything but grade A panels in their own kit.

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    Without checking,I'm not really in a position to argue,but I would take this statement with a pinch of salt.

    Even if Samsung are one of only two manufacturers of the screens themselves,the fact that the other manufacturers add their own processing systems to the screens makes a helluva difference.

    Put it this way,I can't remember many/any Samsung LCD TV's winning awards in the specialist press.

    Hitachi,Sony and Panasonic have though.

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    Quite true - as with most PC parts ,these LCD panels are made by 2 or 3 suppliers. As to why some get different reviews, less to do with whose "processing" systems (This is part of the LCD panel by the way, its so integrated into the panel its scary) and more to do with the incredibly biased world of journo's - who gives them a better bung i'm afraid (and more afraid that people believe their schmuck!)

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    Sorry,but I take those sort of statements with a pinch of salt as well.
    To suggest that all reports are based on backhanders is nonsense in my book.

    Put it this way,if you read a great review on an Audi,would you assume the reporter was 'getting a George Graham' or would that be different ?
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    . As to why some get different reviews, less to do with whose "processing" systems (This is part of the LCD panel by the way, its so integrated into the panel its scary) and more to do with the incredibly biased world of journo's - who gives them a better bung i'm afraid (and more afraid that people believe their schmuck!)

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    This is utter BS, 99% of journalists have more chance of getting a piece published either as a freelancer or past a Sub-editor if the article is controversial. In my (considerable) experience it is very difficult to 'buy' the press - sure they get shipped off to exotic locations for new vehicle launches but don't think it induces them to write more favourably - exactly the opposite happens as the cynical knob gets cranked up to the max.

    Think of Jeremy Clarkson and the infamous Vectra - he made more money out of slagging it rather than saying it was no worse than an equivalent Mondeo.

    The only time you seen rubbish pieces is when the journo has done a big 'copy 'n paste' out of the press pack - usually seen in your local paper.

    As for the LCD panels - yep Sharp and Samsung are two of the largest manufacturers - building both their own designs and joint ventures with other vendors i.e. Sony/Samsung. The fancy picture electronics maybe integral with the panel but don't assume that Sharp or Samsung either own or can sell the technology themselves when they are undertaking contract manufacturing for other people.


    The world is rarely as simple as it first appears!
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    [Oct 25, 2005]
    sorry - just speaking from experience of dealing with journo's for 13 years...........and having around 5 as close mates too - in fact some early reviews of mobile phones were almost written by the maufacturers (Honest!!)

    As for bad news sells, well thats true, however for reviews, they just want to get them done as quick as possible and move onto the next piece - following the general trend is muc quicker.


    however, if you want to believe, believe, i aint stopping ya!!
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