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Discussion in 'A3/S3/Sportback (8P Chassis)' started by Olynth, Mar 8, 2009.
Here it is...
what all did you need to make the brakes work?
I have rotors and calipers from a b7 RS4 left over from when my dad upgraded his rs4 to stasis alcons. I want to fit them but I can't get the TT-shop to return my emails, or find anyone else that is doing the conversion, so any information you can give me about brackets or mounting bells for the rotors would be greatly appreciated.
also i know someone was running MTM bimoto's then when to 18's over rs4 brakes, what wheel sizes/offsets/spacers have been proven to fit over rs4 brakes on our cars with no issues.
Your car looks amazing
B7 RS4 calipers(including oem RS4 brackets)
B7 RS4 rotors
Goodridge custom brake lines(this is for fitting the calipers directly to the s3)
It's not possible to fit the rotors hat to the s3. you need some machine job and also centering hub ring.
These wheels are 18x8 ET45. Also it's not possible to use this kit without spacers with this wheel. We made some custom washers to use without spacers.
here is a picture of clearance with the wheel.
awesome v nice wish i had them on mine its the stop power awesome ...i neeeeeeed em lol
I was thinking to have the same mod but did not want to install spacers.
With the release of the TT-RS I am seriously thinking to intall the brakes, which I think might be a lot easier. As the standard TT-RS wheel is 18' (19 optional) the is no need to change the S3 wheels. Both car stud pattern is 5/112.
Some more photos:
Chat with S3 Big Andy & he should be able to enlighten anyone about the RS4 brakes onto the 8P.
He got his from the TT shop. 2K is a lot to spend on big disks and calipers. Hopefully the TTRS discs will be bigger than the 345mm S3 discs
Have a chat with Ed @ APS - I know he's done the conversion on a few cars now, manly TT though, but I bet its the same for the S3.
He's a good guy - tell him a I said 'Hi'
All I know is the 345mm brakes stop on a dime on my car now, from cheek to cheek, now just to get this damn front arb done.
You'll get used to them..... Then you'll want more!!
At least let me have my fun, lol, but yeah know what you're saying mate, my old S3 had some 10 pot tarox with all I can say were ridiculous sized discs, you get used to them want more huh, thats where it gets out of hand cause they were 2k & discs were £500 each, luckily I managed to get them pro skimmed flat so saved me bundle, as for the owner now, well fairly young guy so I reckon he's burnt them out, lol
I'm very interested to your kit.
We have the same OEM brake system and chassis.
Now You have OZ ultraleggera 18x8J ET45 and spacers?
What the width of spacers in mm ?
Have you interference with the body of the car ???
Have you had reply from TTshop?
I've tried by email but nothing.
Many compliments for your car and mods and new brakes
I have contacted ed at APS, hopefully he can get me the bell or centering spacer i need to fit these to my car.
does anyone know if the MTM bimoto wheels S3bigandy was using fit over these brakes with no spacers?
having an RS4, id say will the brakes are good but they do tend to require cleaning and have a tendancy to need replacing as they warp. I would pick something else
Since i already have the calipers and rotors and pads and lines....
this is just a very cost effective way to upgrade my brakes. all i have to do is buy wheels that will fit over them. If the MTM's fit then its great since I always wanted those wheels anyways. so i am getting wheels and tires and brakes for less then the cost of a stasis alcon big brake kit
Ed at aps says they only do work in shop, the only company that has offered a solution is muggianu turbo but they want 700 euros for the new hats which is too much.
can you give me any more information or pictures about this hub centering ring you mentioned? any help would be greatly appreciated.
I do indeed have a set of the B7 RS4 brakes on my S3, but without trying to p1ss anyone off they are a bloody pain in the ar3e!
Mainly because the rotors get heat spots and crack around the drilled holes, and because of the unusal sized rotors you cannot find aftermarket ones to replace, although Brembo have at last released a set £1300 will buy them but not till next month.
I will use the OEM rotors again but with the way I drive it could get expensive.
but they do keep the OEM look I wanted and they are as sexy as hell once on!!
It is a shame, but I know exactly what you mean
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Try the ceramic, these can now be bought on their own
aren't they silly money though?
Might well do, but, they dont get hot enough for normal braking do they?
Have to admit i bought a new RS4 brake set up for the front of my A3 but changed my mind resold it and bought a Hi Spec Mega Monster 6 kit instead which i am very happy with.
so when you get a replacement rotor andy, will they fit your hub ? was your hub modified to fit the 3mm larger in diameter rotor?
I am really keen in understanding more on the ceramic brakes!
Mov'it do ceramics, about £5k though
There`s loads of info about ceramic brakes on the net. They cost several thousand pounds to buy and are totally wasted on road cars.
Mikey why are you as far from JBS as possible? Also, whens your car ready man?
My car should hopefully be ready by first week of December. Lost a month with a screw up by the gearbox refurb company when they buggered some bolts on rebuilding the gearbox.
Me and JBS have a long history and this isn`t the place or thread to go into it.
As for heat spots, other forums suggest you fit the Phaeton heat sheild bits to direct more air to the discs. This seems to solve the overheating issues.
You can get replacement rings from the us here: http://www.jhmotorsports.com/shop/c...d=373&osCsid=ca5d389fc22d781a739160daaba8ca08
You can also use Gallardo/R8 front discs
@ Polo - are you from e38 forum with the Rocco?
Yes, that is correct :thumbsup:
Thought so, your doing AMG upgrade aren't you?
The greek i bought the calipers off sent me some S500 4-pots insted of the 8-pots from the CL 65, ha said he sent the correct ones last week and sent a tracking number, so fingers crossed
396x36 here we come
Mbt-engineering.de will supply the carriers, discs and bells. Cost for that is around 1100 euros. These calipers use the same pads as the RS4 and Phaeton V10
Sounds great, looking forward to pics.
how about these ap four pot brakes? for use with 330 to 355mm discs? pretty good.... should do the trick four pots and ap quality should be enough for almost any application...... money savings and hard core quality from ap....
AP are excellent brakes.