Right enough, why on earth would someone want to drive a sporty car with 4wd fast in the rain? That would be MAD! FWIW, I like sliding cars around in the rain (company or ones I pay for). Any gimp can drive a modern car fast in the dry. Throw some rain into the equation and someone with a slow car, like me, can often humble much faster ones. Rain is a great leveller. And before you even think about it, I can't even remember the last time I had an accident, it's been that long. A woman rammed the **** of my A4 at some lights, but that can hardly be used as an example of me 'driving daft'.