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S3 Suspension question

Discussion in 'A3/S3 Forum (8L Chassis)' started by FTO, Jul 13, 2004.

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    [Jul 13, 2004]
    Hi everyone, i'm in the market for a facelift S3 and wondered if someone could give me some info on suspension improvements. My main aim is to reduce understeer and lower the car a bit so it looks better on 18" rims, but at the same time maintaining the ride quality - i've just come from an FTO and the main reason for changing it was the harsh ride over bumpy London roads and the tyre noise.

    I don't really want to go down the route of coilovers due to expense, but wondered if I could achieve what I want with some lowered springs?

    Thanks for any help
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    [Jul 14, 2004]
    You won't reduce understeer much by lowering springs alone.

    If you are looking to reduce understeer you would need to replace the anti roll bars (ARB) with larger ARBs. The ones from Neuspeed or the ARBs from the VW Golf 4Motion seems to be a popular choice.

    If you are going to change ARBs, you'd be best replacing dampers to a shortened version, e.g. Bilstein B8 Sprint or Koni, and a suitable set of springs - Eibach Pro Springs and H&R are the most popular choices.

    Have a chat with Ess_Three (Glen) or SCOTSTHREE (Steve), they both have Bilsteins with H&R springs and new front and rear ARBs and swear by them!

    At the same time when lowering, you'll need adjustable rear tie bars to sort out the negative camber. After lowering, the rear negative camber is quite high and needs adjusting. The only way to put it back to the recommended setting of -1.0 is be means of the adjustable tie bars.

    Then you would need a 4WD laser alignment.

    Suspension ain't cheap mate.

    I got my Bilstein B8 Sprint dampers and Eibach Pro springs for £600
    Adjustable tie bars - £250
    ARBS - guessing at about £300
    4WD laser alignment - £95 + vat (dealer price)

    then you have fitting on top of that. Supposedly the front ARB is a b!tch to fit! Realisically you would be looking at £1500 all in for all that work.

    That should make your S3 handle like it's on rails!

    Here is some useful info on ARBs supplied by Ess_three (Glen) when he had his front and rear ARBs fitted at Star Performance:

    Star Performance Testing Day – Pt8 Anti-Roll Bars
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