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RS 3 Sportback is back by popular demand

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    The Audi RS 3 Sportback is back by popular demand. Just 250 more cars will be built for UK customers.
    Find out more: http://ow.ly/cksmG
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    Given that only 500 were to be available to the UK was a selling point, I can't say I'm over the moon to read this :(
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    this should bring the prices of the 2011 ones down to make them more affordable :)
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    audi never mentioned a never ending supply of rs3's when i was buying mine eaither, like audi said at the time of me parting with money that the rs3 + wont be coming to the uk and only available in left hand drive and ive got nothing to worry about which i pessume now only to be bulls*it talk from salesmen lol

    roll on the rs3 + probly just around the corner for audi to launch in the uk but if it does i will be hurting certain audi workers ears

    you know what they say, estate agents solicitors and car salesmen are not to be trusted
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    just sent audi an email too, this sorta breaks the trade discription act, not pleased at all
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    I'd relax guys it just means there is more demand out there for the RS3. More new demand has to mean an even greater pool of used buyers who'll be interested in the cars in years to come. Why? Because total new car sales last year were about 1.9m compared to 6.8m used car sales - that roughly means there are 3 potential used buyers to every new buyer in future for your RS3, social economics in action and I'm sure Audi knows this. The TTRS isn't a limited model and the residuals on those are great -if that's the concern, all cars lose money but the RS3 is one seriously enjoyable way to do so and have a lot of fun at the same time.

    There's a good discussion over on pistonheads about this - the usual mix of intelligent comment and some one eyed brand loyalties!

    I think we all know there will always be a 'better' more powerful, more advanced version of any car - that's how they keep sales going. I'd certainly like the head up display and music streaming over bluetooth from the likes of the A7 in the next RS3 for example. It's all about adaptation - humans quickly adapt to what they have, especially with stuff like cars, and want the next 'better' thing. Marketing and sales folks job is to turn our heads and make us want that next thing - it is just a game. If you don't like the new car game you could always buy yourself a used 'classic' that has depreciated to a failry set level (eg 996-911) and suck up the repair bills! Money it seems really does make the world go around.

    Still loving my RS3 and I'm yet to see another one in these parts.
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    tbh I'm a little more concerned about this - taken from my mate's latest version of ETKA.. clearly showing the new RS3 "PLUS" (360hp) alongside the old with different sales numbers and with a mounting time of 09/12.. Sept! This is from a genuine ETKA, not the dodgy spanish one that was floating around last year- it was this week!

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    My build week is 38.. which is sept, so my order cannot be changed four weeks before this, which means if it does happen I won't be able to re-spec... My guy at audi (who I know personally very well) has been on the phone to the Audi RS team as well as marketing and they have assured him 100% that it will not happen...:huh: however I'm not so sure. Audi marketing mentioned to him that they were so confident it won't happen they'll refund me the difference in price if it does! I asked for that in writing and now they've gone all quiet.....
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    Interesting with the RS3 Plus info on that screen I can understand your concern quattro81 if they make some kit standard or it impacts the price.

    As for the 360 bit, has any magazine run a standard TTRS against a Plus yet? I remember when SEAT released the Cupra R with 260bhp and Evo ran the numbers against the previous 240bhp car. As good as identical and despite an increased top speed claim they both ran to the same previous number.
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    What Audi do and what they tell their dealers are two different things?! Don't see how they've broken the trades descriptions act.... They would have if your RS3 was delivered with 300bhp and not 340bhp but not because they have decided to build more cars. Audi are in the business of producing cars, not safe guarding the future value of yours!
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    They have run the ttrs plus against the 'standard' one and it was about 0.3 quicker to 60 and comes with the top speed limiter "increased" as they put it.. You know what it's about though - you can have your car mapped, and add all the carbon bits in the world, but it'll never say "plus" on the logbook.. It's much like the escort cosworth, already a limited edition vehicle, but the handful of 'motorsport' editions are now worth all the money. The plus will be the same if they release it- the limited of the limited!
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    some people waited 18months nearly for their rs3 ,audi sold the car as a limited run of 500 to the uk so be quick and put your money where your mouth is if not you miss out im sure anyone whos on here with one would agree, this coincided with the m1 limited car and im not aware of bmw churning out as many m1's as they want like audi has done , the big price tag of the rs3 and m1 is in reflection of their limted production and their exclusivity but if audi start making more then the selling description was incorrect


    if i pay money for an advertised exclusive product of any sort which was sold as exclusive or limited and its price is higher because of it being a limited run or exclusive then thats what it should be when i get it.

    Trade Descriptions Act 1968 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Quattro i emailed audi and somone will be calling me back from audi on monday so i will post up guys
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    I read this last week aswell, but lets be honest though, 750 RS3's against the other 8P stock sold in one year or over the 9 years to date is tiny, so its still going to be very limited, come on, you have nothing to worry about.
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    i wouldnt mind audi making a totally new car model which was not an rs3 but it was better , id just think oh well i missed out on that model i should of waited but ive still got my limted 1 of 500ish rs3's outside happy days, but when audi now even have the cheek to launch a limited better version rs3+ when audi previously only just pryed 40 odd grand out of 500+ uk buyers for its limited strickly 500 only ever standard rs3's and to top it off audi are gonna make 200+ more of these limited 500 only rs3's cars to still sell as limited while they then roll out the rs3+ limited strickly best ever a3 type blah blah ,
    im confused whos gonna buy these extra 200 rs3's ? as surly no one would buy a rs3 for the same price as a rs3+ i can only think audi will forget to mention to any current customers who are waiting and are lucky enough to get a slot "cough cough" for their rs3's that they could own a newer rs3+ in the same time it probly takes for their limited 2nd run of 200 rs3's to be delivered, only means imo audi will slash the price of these extra 200 rs3's havin a knock on effect


    whats up audi you are confusing me keep it simple seems your getting marketing ideas from the apple iphone offices and whens the s3+ released or did i miss it
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    Just so you know, the only difference shown within etka atm for the rs3 & + models are the ecu's, everything else is the same, so it would maybe appear to be a map ATM, so dont get all flustered about it, as said before, its only 250 more cars, not exactly making them available to be shown on each street corner are they, think mountain molehill scenario atm mate, so relax & see what occurs in next few months.
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    I agree with mr NHN... I don't think it will adversely affect the prices of the RS3, and it's not confirmed 100% anyway - however likely it seems on ETKA. As it is, I've never seen an RS3 drive past the other way even once! It is a little naughty of audi to make more, when it was a highly used part of their marketing strategy that there were specifically "only 500 coming to the uk".. Be interested to see what they come back to you with, Sticks..?
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    As much as I don't like the practice of misleading buyers, it seems that almost every RS3 owner complaining of being ripped off is not considering the '+' monika! that little addition (..sorry) means it's not the same car! no matter how much you cry foul ..it's a different model. So there's not an additional 250 cars on the promised 500 limited edition run - there's 250 of a newer and even more limited model.

    I feel for the guys that bought into the sales talk, but all it takes is a name change for it to become a new model and the little '+' satisfies that requirement.

    Does anyone remember the uproar Renault caused when they launched the Clio Williams2, after promising the original 1992 Clio Williams would be a one off? ..well it was, because they've so far never reused the same name.
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    Yes but they're not specifying the 250 extra run off will be the + versions anyway, just standard RS3's (which in itself sounds weird, a standard RS3 lol)

    Regardless, still think only 750 cars made of that chassis, seems very limited to me lol.
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    Waited for Audi to call me today nothing , so I called them and was told my case handler was looking into it and is gonna ring me tomorrow (Tuesday) , I asked the person on the other end of phone from Audi about this and he said as far as he is aware Audi never ever said to anyone that the rs3 was limited at all and it isn't and yes the rs3+ is on its way too just like the ttrs+ to which I told him Audi's main selling stance with the rs3 was being a limited car and a final sign out of that old shape to which he couldn't answer and said the case handler will call you tomorrow ,

    Guys what you think? Sounds like bak peddling to me

    Has anyone on here bought their car from Audi as a non limited run car or was we all suckered into this limited once in a lifetime car sales talk
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    I have the RS3 brochure here and no where in it does it state that it was a limited run of 500 cars. Surely if it was a limited run they would all be numbered like the RS6 Plus's were?


    Have a read.... http://www.audi.co.uk/content/dam/audi/production/PDF/PriceAndSpecGuides/rs3-sportback.pdf
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    Audi sold this as a limited car of 500 only to the uk
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    Have you got that officially in writing anywhere sticks?

    I was going to buy one, don't think I will now if they are to become 50% more popular :p
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    hi everyone i am new to this site and can see that reading through this thread that audi have annoyed some of you . i have just sold my 09 audi s3 to get a rs3 . not sure if i am going new or used yet . i went into bolton audi today to ask about what sort of deals they can do for me and i was told they are making a plus + model along with another 250 units of the standard rs3 . just thought i would let you know what i was told .
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    i havnt got it in writing but im sure everyone with one was told this by audi , im sure the press were told that too as most reviews say this,
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    did they say to you that the extra 200 cars was limited and is the rs3+ sold as limited too ,

    i love my rs3 but audi has some what took a sparkle away now

    imo id wait to see how much audi sell these extra 200 cars for as there maybe a bargain to be had or just put a deposit on a rs3+ but be sure to ask audi that they are not gonna release a rs3+1 in a couple of months, i dont get it this car model platform has been around for ever and its took so long to get from an s3 to an rs3 then just as u get the rs3 theres another one made wow audi seem to be plunging so much into this end of life car as the new shape will be out probly before christmas

    imo i want audi to map my car and get the + added to my logbook or give me a + or i will keep mine if they give me 10 grand back ,all seems fair to me, they cause this for no reason and the law is on our side i feel no way!!

    this is all imo just to clarify and thats the route im going to take my choice and maybe not to everyones taste but im not getting left holding the baby i havnt got what i paid for
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    just to confirm , i searched internet for reviews and....

    evo quote:There are a couple of oddball things, not least of which is that it will only be on sale for around 18 months, because that’s when Audi stops making A3 bodies.

    daily mail quote :On the face of it this seems like an awful lot of money for a Golf-sized hatchback, especially so when there's an all-new A3 due one year from now, but with only 500 confirmed for right-hand drive UK production the RS3 will at least be exclusive.

    honest john quote: So there are high hopes for the latest model in the line-up – the RS3, not least because it’s the most affordable RS model. It’s also very exclusive with just 750 right-hand drive versions confirmed for production.That said at a few quid shy of £40,000 (£39,900 to be exact) it’s not exactly cheap,

    thats the first 3 reviews ive only looked at
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    he said another 250 units of the standard rs3 are going to be made . and that the plus + model is going to be made but did not say how many .
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    So nothing in writing from Audi, just what the press say.... Which they probably got from the BMW 1M because that was limited, Audi launch the RS3 which was a main rival and the press think it's limited too!

    All RS models run at the end of the models life... It's how Audi do it although with the RS5 and TT RS that does seem to be changing.
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    so when ever has there been an rs+ anything of these older models and 10yo models or even an option when specing your new rs car?

    i always thought the rs infront of any audi model number would mean im buying the most sporty version and nothing tops that for atleast untill a new shape comes out

    when i go bmw and i want the sportiest version of a 3 series i get an m3 never had m3 + extra super etc offered not even from audi when i paid for my RS3its like ordering and paying for an rs5 and them giving you a s5 then releasing the rs5
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    I'm just pleased I got shot of mine and walked away with a £1000 loss after 2 months of ownership..

    Incould be tempted into a java green rs3+ if they release them :)
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    well im quite sure audi are releasing the + even the guy i spoke to answering calls at audi uk confirmed it along with the ttrs+ thats what im %issed about, well done tho m8 6 sense
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    Im with you on kicking their a55 as everyone was told that it was 500 cars, then all of a sudden they find an extra 250 shells lying about somewhere..

    Group buy on Rs3+
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    I'm starting to feel like I'm in a minority having bought the RS3 because it's brilliant to drive, makes the commute easy, has lots of toys and can be both A road blaster and safe secure quattro family transport.

    Why is everyone so worried about future values and what comes next? Unless you are a car speculator surely you bought the RS3 because you liked it?

    'Limited' is a sales gimmick - see DFS sale ends Monday, Mazda MX5 and Lotus special editions etc made to tap in to our want for the next thing. It's called the scarcity principle - quick I have to get one. My R26R was numbered and even came with a book (wow) and did a time of 8.17 round the 'Ring. 2 years on the next special 'Trophy' laps the 'ring in 8.07 with back seats and all - that's just life and progress.

    So BMW add a new player to the game with the M135i, Audi announce some more RS3's and add a new dimension with the +. All reasonable actions from their perspective and even more limited this time to get the scarcity principle going again. All the RS3's 3 door competitor the TTRS & + are unlimited models anyway, which seems to have been overlooked. With no need for practicality I'd have bought the TT but I'm glad Audi made the RS3 for dads.

    If you feel 'done' it might be time to check your motivation for buying the car in the first place and realise its just a game their will always be a 'next' and 'better' thing.
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    Thats exactly my thoughts, very well said indeed, people didnt buy these for investment, they bought to drive afaik, so why worry about the ltd moniker so much, just enjoy them!!!
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    Just to clarify I'm not down about values I'm down about rs3+ and me not owning one
    when I wanted the Rs version of the 3
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    Ok.. I just got off the phone with Bolton Audi, and they categorically denied telling anyone there is an rs3 plus confirmed. They said that it is possible, because Audi have traditionally released 100 plus models on the last production run of an RS model, but that this has not been confirmed or hinted at by Audi head office at all.. They also said that if you look at the rs6 as an example, they were several grand more expensive, marginally quicker, but didn't really sell for noticeably more second hand - so they are saying the residual value of the rs3 will not be affected by the plus model.. Which I am inclined to agree with. It's the r8 v10 vs the r8gt argument all over again.. I personally am gonna stick with my order, if something changes in between times so be it - but I'm not gonna lose any sleep over it.. And dont worry Sticks, I'll be in the same boat as you soon mate, we'll just have to take comfort in the sound of that glorious 5cylinder growl :)
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    And this is how I feel too.. The money's not the main issue, it's not really a "sensible investment"! It was about having the top model.. Buying some exclusivity.. To know there is a better one is a bit of a kick in the nuts

    - Just to add. The salesman also told me of someone who had been waiting 2 years now for his rs3 as he ordered it in mamba black? With some special interior.. and he's still waiting! I'd imagine the waiting time for the plus will be substantial.. By then we could've all sold up and moved on!?:)
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    Hi all
    I too ordered mine for the exclusivity of only 500 for theuk so I am very peed, I have already emailed Audi customer services saying I willbe seeking legal advice, Audi called me back the next day with the supply anddemand ****e and how sorry they were for my wait.
    I have emails from my dealer stating there will be only 500for uk and there press release to dealerships with reference to the launchprocess.
    Ii am going to try and get some legal advice I think I getan hour free will let you know what they say??
    one email i was sent had this attached !!!


    RS 3 Sportback - UK quota is 500 units


    There will be limited production of just 500 RS 3 Sportbacks for the UK from the start of production in 2011 to end of production in 2012. As a result, demand for this fantastic new addition to the Audi range is likely to exceed supply. Here is more information on launch car availability and details of the open for ordering process.

    Centre showroom/demonstrator orders

    RS 3 will open for Centre Market Introduction ordering on Wednesday 21 December and close on Tuesday 4 January.

    A quota of one showroom/demo vehicle per Centre will be available. There will be a maximum of one demonstrator per market area and the remainder must be showroom vehicles.

    Orders must be SLI order type 05 Demo or 06 Showroom.

    The specification of these vehicles is free, but if an order has not been placed by the deadline (4 January) then a vehicle will be ordered on your behalf in agreement with your Area Sales Manager.

    Centres will not be permitted to sell their Market Introduction vehicles to customers until they are three months old.

    The launch is planned for Summer 2011, further details are to be confirmed.

    Price and specification guide

    An electronic price and specification guide will be available to download from Desktop and from audi.co.uk on Wednesday 22 December to enable you to specify and order your RS 3 market introduction car.

    Open for customer orders

    Limited quota will be available in SLI for customer orders from Thursday 6 January 2011. Cars will be allocated by the RS team as per the usual process. Customers who placed the earliest deposit or interest in the car via roi@audi.co.uk will take delivery of the first vehicles.

    It will not be possible to provide customers with confirmation of build weeks until March 2011 at the earliest. It is crucial that Centres inform customers of this in order to manage their expectations when placing an order. Deliveries of customer RS 3s will begin in Summer 2011. More specific timescales cannot be given at this time.

    Timings
    Open for Centre showroom/demo orders 22 December 2010 to 4 January 2011
    Limited quota for Centre customer orders Thursday 6 January 2011
    Confirmation of build weeks from March 2011
    RS 3 premiere at Geneva motor show Calendar week 09 2011
    Centre launch and first Customer deliveries Summer 2011

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    please guys if you feel a let down and believe its a flout of the trade discription act about all this audi sales talk please ring audi uk and make a complaint like alot of people are doing right now ,strength in numbers!!!! ,i will be getting a response from the managing director of audi uk tomoz so will update

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