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RNS-E and SDS

Discussion in 'Audi S4/A4/A4 Cab (B7 Chassis)' started by Wrath, Sep 7, 2009.

  1. Wrath

    Wrath Well-Known Member

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    I'm going to splash out on an RNS-e from the bay in a couple of months time and am wondering if I get an SDS version (I'm aware there is a hack available for non-SDS units), what else do I need to get the SDS bit working.

    Do I need the full Bluetooth install or can I just get a mic and is everything else ready to go?

    Any advice gratefully received.



    Nathan
     
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    PetrolDave Well-Known Member

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    You need the mic PLUS an MFSW - since the SDS is activated by pressing the PTT button on the MFSW.
     
  4. Wrath

    Wrath Well-Known Member

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    My intention at the mo is to get the RNS-e and then have a MFSW installed, probably by primeprestige.com owing to the fact I'll need a new slipring, control unit, harness and steering wheel. I'll get a mic off ebay, whereabouts does the mic sit ie. do I need a new piece of interior plastic?


    Nathan
     
  5. gjwell

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    The mic fits in the interior light unit. The mounts are already there, so it just clips in.
     
  6. Wrath

    Wrath Well-Known Member

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    I've done a bit of digging, so by the look of it, the RNS-E requires a harness (currently got a Symphony II) to connect the car to the RNS unit. Presumably the microphone attaches to the RNS harness?

    Just getting my facts straight so I can get both at the same time although I won't be able to test until I get the MFSW.


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  7. PetrolDave

    PetrolDave Well-Known Member

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    It requires both a wiring adapter (to convert from ISO-style connectors to a Quadlock) and an antenna adapter (to convert from a Fakra plus "car" connector to a dual Fakra).

    I don't know of any suplier of wiring adapters for the RNS-E that supplies SDS-ready ones - you'll have to add the microphone wiring yourself. That's what I had to do.
     
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    Wrath Well-Known Member

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    I'll have to badger you closer to the time :)
     
  9. PetrolDave

    PetrolDave Well-Known Member

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    It's easy enough to do, just pop off the A pillar trim on the passenger side to run the wire between the mic and the RNS-E.
     
  10. 1wheelonly

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    dave, im wanting to do this aswell, what cable/cables are involved and whats the connection and where do they go onto the rns-e?
    sorry for all the questions mate
     
  11. PetrolDave

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    The RNS-E has Mic+ & Mic- In connections and Mic+ & Mic- Out connections (the paper label on the top gives the actual pinouts). You connect the normal Audi mic to the In pins, and the Out pins go to the Audi Bluetooth/Phone module (if you have one).

    In theory you should use some kind of screened cable, but everyone I know has used ordinary wire without any problems.
     
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    then what? is there any coding required mate
     
  13. PetrolDave

    PetrolDave Well-Known Member

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    Nope, an SDS RNS-E always has SDS enabled there's no coding to enable or disable it.
     
  14. 1wheelonly

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    just bought a mic off the bay,will be fitting it at the weekend.
     
  15. 1wheelonly

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    dave, when you say an SDS RNS-E what do you mean? is mine not ? how do i know?
    cheers
     
  16. pjmspeedy

    pjmspeedy Dude, what's mine say ?

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    Check your part number against these.

    8E0 035 192 C Audi A4 Europe, MY 2004, 8E B6
    8E0 035 192 D Audi A4 Europe, MY 2005, 8E B7
    8E0 035 192 E Audi A4 North America, MY 2005.5, 8E B6
    8E0 035 192 F Audi A4 North America, MY 2006, 8E B7
    8E0 035 192 G Audi A4 BNS 5.0
    8E0 035 192 H Audi A4 Europe, MY 2006, 8E B7, with SDS
    8E0 035 192 J Audi A4 North America, MY 2006, 8E B7
    8E0 035 192 K Audi A4 Europe, MY 2007, 8E B7, sw 0500
    8E0 035 192 M Audi A4 BNS 5.0
    8E0 035 192 N Audi A4 Europe, MY 2007, 8E B7, with SDS
    8E0 035 192 P Audi A4 North America, MY 2007, 8E B7
    8E0 035 192 Q Audi A4 Europe, MY 2008, 8E B7
    8E0 035 192 R Audi A4 Europe, MY 2008, 8E B7, with SDS, sw 0650
    8E0 035 192 S Audi A4 BNS 5.0
    8E0 035 192 T Audi A4 Europe, MY 2008, 8E B7, sw 0650
    8E0 035 193 Audi A4 Europe, MY 2008.5, 8E B7, with SDS
     
  17. 1wheelonly

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    got to be an easier way, im not pulling that bloody thing out again untill i fit the mic.
    whats yours speedy?
     
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    pjmspeedy Dude, what's mine say ?

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    Mines a K
     
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    pjmspeedy Dude, what's mine say ?

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    Infact do a scan with VAGCOM and that will tell you the part number of the unit
     
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    Hi, I am hoping some one here will be able to provide me extra detail.

    I have installed a RNS-E unit (version T) into a A4 Cab (B7 2007) with MFSW. When I push the button on the steering wheel RNS-E unit says through the speakers say a command, so I was hoping to connect the microphone up to use the SDS function.

    After researching microphone should be connected to plug C on the Quadlock as follows:
    C1 Mic In -
    C7 Mic In +

    I have taken the interior light apart and there is two microphone present which run into one plug which has the following wires:
    Blue
    Brown
    Green with Gray line
    Reg with Green line

    Can anyone tell me where the microphone wiring runs to (I guess down the passenger A pillar but where from here)?
    And also how the four wires connect up to the RNS-E?

    I would be gratefully for any advice.
     
  21. 1wheelonly

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    the rnse has mic + & - (in) and (out)
    you only require one mic, which goes to mic in on rnse then wire from rnse out to the bluetooth unit
     
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    Many Thanks 1wheelonly

    Do you know which colour wires go to which mic:
    Blue
    Green with Gray line
    Reg with Green line
    Brown

    I guess the wires with the traces(lines) are the Mic - but which combination?

    Blue / Green with Gray line
    Brown / Red with Green line

    or

    Blue / Red with Green line
    Brown / Green with Gray line

    Also I have been reading up on this and it looks like the cable ends up under the passenger seat is this correct?

    Thanks
     
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    Ignore my last post, was looking at wrong plug.

    All parts ordered, so hopefully will have it connected up early next week.
     
  25. rowdyboy

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    Where did you get the parts from, mate?
     
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    please can you help me i can not find any where i can download sw0660 to get sds to work, it driving me crazy
     

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