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Retrofit Rear Parking Sensors?

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    Also got a crashed A3 sitting in a lockup...... LOL
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    Anyone know where I can get an electrical connector removal tool?

    Just thinking in advance....
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    Ah, ahead of you on that one Nigel. I bought these connectors off the bay to make it look a little more professional:

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....49853&_sacat=See-All-Categories&_fvi=1&_rdc=1
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    Depends what connector you wanna remove pins from, maybe some more info would help mate.

    Also I like the thought process alot, nice idea mate will be prim & proper, kudos as thats my method.
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    Was just thinking of removing the pins in the convenience module once I've soldered in the parking aid loom so I can shrink wrap the freshly soldered area.

    Also in case I need to remove a pin from the fusebox so I can solder in the power cables....
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    I have a toolset I use for pin removal, would you be interested in a kit then?
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    I was looking at a kit but I'm not sure if I will need a kit as I dont plan on doing too much removal of pins.

    Just wondered if a couple of small screwdrivers would be sufficient to remove the pins?
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    On those connectors a small driver should be fine as its just a locator clip to push down iirc, but others on car wont be same.
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    Ok I'm gonna ask....is there any reason why the PDC control unit has 3 plug sockets?

    Obviously one is for the rear sensors and one is for the loom connected to the car, so what would the other one be for?
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    The kettle.
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    Ha Ha very good Nigel.

    Well the loom is finally in the car :jump:, just need to know what I need to do with regards to VCDS to get the rear parking sensors working?
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    IIRC you just need to go into the can gateway & tick the box for parking assist.
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    Khufu,

    Is this the box I need to tick?

    19-CAN Gateway Controller,
    Long Coding Helper,
    Byte 1,
    Bit 5,
    [10] Parking Aid ll
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    Just checked, I went into 19-can gateway controller, then selected installation list and looked at the options ticking the box for parking assist. What version of VCDS are you using?
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    I've got 908.
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    I've finally managed to tap into the fusebox for the power to the PDC (they definately dont make it easy for you).

    As I disconnected the battery I thought it would be a good idea to do an auto scan and I came up with these faults:

    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    76-Park Assist -- Status: Not registered 0011
    77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 8P0-820-043.lbl
    Part No SW: 8P0 820 043 AH HW: 8P0 820 043 AH
    Component: KlimavollautomatH19 0420
    Revision: 115452 Serial number: 8P0820043AH
    Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
    2 Faults Found:
    00819 - High Pressure Sensor (G65)
    009 - Open or Short to Ground - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00101001
    Fault Priority: 3
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 122
    Mileage: 58060 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2010.02.11
    Time: 00:00:52
    Freeze Frame:
    Temperature: 1.0°C
    Voltage: 12.20 V
    RPM: 0 /min
    Load: 0.0 %
    Load: 9.0 %
    01592 - Air Quality Sensor (G238)
    010 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00101010
    Fault Priority: 3
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 122
    Mileage: 58060 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2010.02.11
    Time: 00:00:59
    Freeze Frame:
    Temperature: -50.0°C

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 8P0-907-279-30-H.lbl
    Part No SW: 8P0 907 279 K HW: 8P0 907 279 K
    Component: Bordnetz-SG H54 2501
    Revision: 00H54000 Serial number: 00000007906363
    Coding: AD880F21B01410004F0000003000000000085E175C010202000000000000
    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 08192
    Part No: 8P2 955 119 E
    Component: Wischer AU350 H01 0130
    Coding: 00062736
    Shop #: WSC 06314
    2 Faults Found:
    00061 - Footwell Lights
    012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00101100
    Fault Priority: 5
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 122
    Mileage: 58060 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2010.02.11
    Time: 15:46:00
    Freeze Frame:
    OFF
    Voltage: 12.20 V
    OFF
    ON
    OFF
    OFF
    OFF
    01800 - Light Switch (E1)
    008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00101000
    Fault Priority: 3
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 122
    Mileage: 57932 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2010.02.09
    Time: 16:58:00
    Freeze Frame:
    OFF
    Voltage: 12.35 V
    OFF
    OFF
    OFF
    OFF
    OFF

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 1K0-907-530.lbl
    Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 L HW: 1K0 907 951
    Component: J533__Gateway H15 0180
    Revision: H15 Serial number: 1400K07B05036F
    Coding: E9807F060006022103
    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
    1 Fault Found:
    01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded
    000 - -
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 01100000
    Fault Priority: 1
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 82
    Mileage: 58060 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2010.02.11
    Time: 00:00:56

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 8P0-959-801-MAX.lbl
    Part No SW: 8P0 959 801 K HW: 8P0 959 801 K
    Component: Tuer-SG H03 0050
    Coding: 0000752
    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
    1 Fault Found:
    00120 - Outside Warning Light/Door exit Light Driver Side
    012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1Kx-909-14x.lbl
    Part No: 1K2 909 144 M
    Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.079 H08 1901
    Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108
    1 Fault Found:
    00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
    000 - -
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: 8P0-959-802-MAX.lbl
    Part No SW: 8P0 959 802 K HW: 8P0 959 802 K
    Component: Tuer-SG H03 0050
    Coding: 0000752
    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
    1 Fault Found:
    00121 - Outside Warning Light/Door exit Light Passenger Side
    012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Address 62: Door, Rear Left Labels: 8P4-959-801.lbl
    Part No SW: 8P4 959 801 E HW: 8P4 959 801 E
    Component: Tuer-SG H04 0040
    Coding: 0000208
    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 1012557
    1 Fault Found:
    00122 - Outside Warning Light/Door exit Light; Rear Left
    012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 72: Door, Rear Right Labels: 8P4-959-802.lbl
    Part No SW: 8P4 959 802 E HW: 8P4 959 802 E
    Component: Tuer-SG H04 0040
    Coding: 0000208
    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 1012557
    1 Fault Found:
    00123 - Outside Warning Light/Door exit Light; Rear Right
    012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 76: Park Assist Labels: 8P0-919-283.lbl
    Part No SW: 8P0 919 283 D HW: 8P0 919 283 D
    Component: Parkhilfe 4-Kan H09 0070
    Revision: 00H09000 Serial number: 00067824830713
    Coding: 0000113
    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
    4 Faults Found:
    01549 - Supply Voltage for Parking-Aid Sensor
    009 - Open or Short to Ground - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00101001
    Fault Priority: 3
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 122
    Mileage: 58060 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2010.02.11
    Time: 00:00:52
    00532 - Supply Voltage B+
    002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00100010
    Fault Priority: 6
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 40
    Mileage: 36234 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2008.09.28
    Time: 18:01:15
    00576 - Terminal 15
    008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00101000
    Fault Priority: 3
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 122
    Mileage: 58060 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2010.02.11
    Time: 00:00:53
    01549 - Supply Voltage for Parking-Aid Sensor
    002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00100010
    Fault Priority: 3
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 122
    Mileage: 58060 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2010.02.11
    Time: 00:01:01

    End ---------------------------------------------------------------------


    Ignore all the Door faults and Cent Elec faults.

    Was concered about the others though as I've never done a scan after disconnecting the battery so just wanted to know what is normal to see. I'm guessing the Steering Assist is normal as the lights went out after a short drive?

    The parking sensors are not fitted yet (fitting tomorrow hopefully) so don't know if that is the reason for those faults. I have since ticked the park assist so I think that takes care of the CAN Gateway fault?

    Any help gladly received....
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    [Feb 12, 2010]
    I have just removed my rear bumper off my akoya silver 2004 tdi sport,if anyone's after a genuine bumper with parking sensor
    holes already in,don't want much just could do with it out the way,if anyones interested


    Jules
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    Ryan clear the faults then test again, didnt need to disc battery tbh but everyone to there own.
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    Thanks Nigel,

    I disc the battery as I didnt fancy soldering whilst connected to the fuse box :faint:

    All sorted now though.

    Went for a drive, cleared the faults and did another scan. All good now :icon_thumright:
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    woooo, at last LOL
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    Bloody hell I nearly had a breakdown waiting for this to happen..................................
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    Thanks to both Nigel & Khufu for the baby steps :respekt:
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    hi guys

    i have just got a A3 SE 2.0 tdi 170 DSG
    i have put s Line bumpers on MFSW and stalk to control DIS...

    the problem is the s line rear bumper came with sensors plus loom BUt i can't find the loom to connect the Module to could it be my car does not come with this loom


    cheers

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    hi
    thanks for thr reply

    no the car never came with sensors
    i assumed that the wiring would be there (how wrong was I)

    yes i do have the module

    nav

    is it a simple sort of job :sadlike:
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    If you read through this thread Khufu & Nigel have pretty much gone through baby steps for me :icon_thumright:
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    was wondering if you guys could help me out a little, didnt want to really start a new tread as its related,
    i got a s3 rear bumper few weeks back(not got it on as yet) it came with the parking sensors 7H0 919 275 D
    [​IMG]
    but the guy cutted off the end of the wiring loom where it goes to the module,
    [​IMG]
    so you think i would need the whole wiring loom? if so is item 3 in photo 1?
    and so the other parts i need are item 6 (photo1)
    and the module do i need the module from photo 1 or photo 2?
    cause etka is coming up with 2 modules, but i think the module in photo1 is for parking steer assist? am i right
    and item 6 (photo2)
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
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    1st of all just repair the existing loom & get some repair wires & connector from audi & 2nd the 1st pic is of the shitty aftermarket one that are £10 on ebay, thats not the proper one that integrates into the car network, you need to look at the 2nd pic for the oem pdc system, also remember you are looking at a 2004 car but the sensors are from an 06 onwards car S3, so you need to get the module for the year of the sensors mate as they have changed.

    Also Navisace, please read the thread then ask questions as fair bit of info already in here.
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    Hi Nigel,

    I'm looking at doing this with my A4. Going back to almost the start of the thread you gave a good description of how to fix the parking sensors in the bumper. CouldI ask a question with regards to fitting these. After drilling the hole with a 21mm bit, does the sensor fill the hole completely or does the bumper need painting. Having looked a bumper with the oem ones fitted it seems that a black ring might be left showing. Is this the case.

    Anyone mind posting a picture of theirs close up for me to look at?

    Cheers

    Neil
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    Sensors are smaller on newer cars so more than likely what a 16-17mm now, but when I used my holecutter, the bumper wasnt chipped, infact was a perfect cut & I measured the sensor beforehand & it was actually 21-22 so I used smaller & then made it slightly bigger for a tight sensor fitment so I could epoxy on inside while it held fast in position.

    So case of painting your sensors & then should look ok, but I'm anal, so its at painters for this & number of other things mate, just makes it look oem.
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    thanks NHN,
    so am i correct to say all the parts that i circled?
    [​IMG]
    also mate how do i find the part number for the connector thats been cut off?
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    its either part 19 or 20- cause on etka its say that its a 12 pin, i i do have 12 wires coming out of the cutted wire,but which one is it?
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    If you go to illustration 972-50 it is numbered 3 on that picture which is a 12 pin plug - part number 8EO 972 112. (This is using the same age and car you have chosen in your screen dumps).

    You should check tho that its right part
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    thanks mate , thats the one i need, so my next question my be a little difficult, once i get the plug how to i workout which wire goes where,
    they in 4 categories,(3 wires for each sensors)

    red/purple
    brown/purple
    blue/purple

    red/yellow
    brown/yellow
    blue/yellow

    red/white
    brown/white
    blue/white

    red/red
    brown/red
    blue/red

    is there i diagram on ELSAWIN?, i got elsawin, just dont know where to look
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    In elsa you need to view the current flow diagrams (yellow triangle) enter your vehicle details (You will need engine and gearbox codes which can be found on a label in the font of your handbook) and then search for parkind aid. You will get the diagram and it will look something like this:-

    [​IMG]
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    oh wow great help there, making more and more sense, this ESLA is a great program,
    so do i need just 2 parts?
    (1) buzzer
    (2) module
    what about any other looms? ie from buzzer to module or any other parts?or is that all i need
    cheers
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    You will need the repair wires & make up the looms, but again I say make sure the kit you buy is for the corrent year of the sensors you have, as they changed as did the wiring!!!!

    Looking at 04 is pointless if your sensors only came out in 07
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    Yes Khalil, my screen dumps were for illustration only, I don't know any other details of your car! I'm ofay with the theory side but yet to put into practice

    :beerchug:
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