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Remapped 8L 1.9TDI vs Remapped 8P 2.0TDI

Discussion in 'A3/S3 Forum (8L Chassis)' started by Toxik-Signal, Oct 16, 2008.

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    Toxik-Signal Andy

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    Hey all, just been looking at some power / torque / weight / remap figures for the 8L PD130 and the New 8P 2.0TDI.

    Although the stock 2.0TDI is quicker than a stock PD130 here is what I found when you remapped them both...

    From Jabba:
    8L: Stock = 130bhp / Remapped = 180bhp (average)
    8P: Stock = 170bhp / Remapped = 190bhp (average)

    10bhp difference (the 8P has 5% more power than the 8L).

    Now let's have a look at the weights:
    8L: 1180Kg
    8P: 1360Kg

    180Kg difference (the 8P is 13% heavier)

    On these figures alone I'd be inclined to say that they're pretty closely matched for acceleration although I reckon the remapped 8L would have the edge.

    What do you guys think?

    -Andy.
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    Disregard the power figures, what are the Torque figures? the power delivery of both engines are VERY different, the 130PD unit is an all or nothing affair with power through a very short rev range, but it's damn rapid in this rev range. The 2.0 unit is much smoother with a more linear torque curve, it's probably quicker, but doesn't feel it type of feel.
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    i also think the 180bhp guess for the pd130 is a little high. All I've seen only make around 165. and many 170's seem to manage over 200bhp when mapped.....

    The figures sound a little off.

    As Jojo said though, the PD130 is an old 8v engine with a massive torque spike.

    The 2.0 16v tdi is a much more modern engine, and is much more petrol like in it's delivery, making it a far nicer car to drive from an enjoyment point of view.
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    Same amount of torque although the PD130 can get an extra 15lbs with an uprated clutch.

    Check out the website: http://www.jabbasport.com/remaps.php

    I'm guessing that the new A3 probably drives more like my girlfriend's Golf 2.0 GT TDI which I'm really not keen on tbh. Apart from the boat-like handling it does seem to pull through the revs a lot more consistently but I dunno, there's something about the way it pulls that I'm not keen on it doesn't feel like I'm accelerating as quickly.
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    When I had my old tdi (8L) mapped i got 162bhp, another forum member got 175 from his 8L tdi quattro

    180 is (i think) a little optimistic on a normal car
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    Was that with a custom map or a load n go? :)
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    I guess you'd call it a custom map (well when I say custom it was the superchips generic map tailored to my TDI)
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