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Remap don't !!!

Discussion in 'A4/A4 cabriolet/S4 forum(B6 chassis)' started by A4tdishane, Oct 9, 2012.

  1. A4tdishane
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    Hi guys was having my car remapped (chip tuned) on Sunday but guess what the car never ran again :( well got it back today and I decided to have a butchers at the ecu and look at this what I found
    ImageUploadedByTapatalk1349804579.777584.jpg

    I know pic ain't great but you can clearly see he's butchered the main chip as well as destroying my map chip
    All this from a "proffesional" tuning expert
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    I never 'believed' in remapping, The car came from the factory with 'x' amount of power for a reason longativity, in my opinion
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    I'm gonna steer clear of it all now I think this has been a costly mistake
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    Simply remapping an ECU shouldn't to that damage, what you are seeing is excess current frying your unit. Time for small claims if they don't pay up for a fix.
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    Ouch! as someone that's considering a remap for economical gain ..this sucks.

    What do they intend to do to rectify, or is it at your own risk? Was it a company advertised on ASN?
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    Is that his attempt to solder on to the main board. Need some better pics mate as you can see jack in those.
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    It's his attemp at de soldering the chip and reattaching it
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    Hope this is a better pic ImageUploadedByTapatalk1349806316.597522.jpg
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    From what I can tell he shouldn't of touched the bigger square chip :/
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    who did it and why remove the chip ?
    all iv had done if cant do it through car then its bench flash
    never had to remove the chip.
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    A local guy to me don't wanna name him yet as he's yet to pay me back for the new ecu I've had to buy he said mine could only be done by removing the chip I just hop a fellow forum member can code my new ecu in tonight
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    is he a pro or just someone that does it for spare cash ?
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    He claimed he used to work for a well know Fish named tuning company and he left them to start his own business but I spoke to them today and they need heard of him lol
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    are you sure its not one of these chips +15BHP Power Mod/Chip Accord Civic R Integra Prelude | eBay
    two guys have asked you who did the
    remapping and you havent told us who they are.
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    so you paid him upfront ?
    who ever does that
    payment when job if finshed and your pleased with it.
    think you have lost out.
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    I mean paid me for the ecu I've had to buy to replace mine lol
    There was no way I was payin for the socalled map
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    id still name and shame
    as someone from this or another forum could end up in the same **** as you !
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    It's odd that he went down that route. As far as i'm aware all the B6 models can be remapped by a flash. Early B5 models had to be physically chipped or the ECU having a socket fitted to take a replacement chip.

    Sounds like a bit of a cowboy to me.
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    Name the cowboy mapper !! I've had loads of car properly remapped with no issues please don't be put of by 1 cowboy m8
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    OMG. My son could de solder better than that.

    As stated, why he was removing that chip, god only knows. Also you should have a port flashable ECU so a decent tuner should not have needed to open the ecu and desolder the chip. Thats sub 1999 technology
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    you need to give his name so as others dont go to him before you and if you get your money off of him
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    Im really confused as to why he de-soldered and then re-soldered the chip back onto the board. As someone said its only when bench mapping (boot mode) that you have to get to the ECU itself. Sounds real dodgy to me
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    Hi shane, as others have said, you ought to name and shame.

    This ECU should never have needed to be dissasembled im led to believe, and the poor attempt at working on it shows real incompetance (just like my spelling!)

    As we discovered tonight, and rosstech actually mailed me on the way home, the ecu is immo iii, and youll need to get the SKC code from both ECU's to code it in. IMO you should be asking the guy who did this to supply a new ECU, probably from a main dealer.
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    A brand new A4 (B8) ECU from TPS is approx £800 (rough guide for you) and its them that supply Audi. It will then have to be coded online and live to embed the immobiliser codes. If your old ECU isn't knackered then you may not have to go to the dealer for this. Just to give you a heads up this kind of thing happened to a customer of mine where someone had attempted to do a quick flash and it went wrong. Beware as the main dealer in Edinburgh and Glasgow refused to code and fit the new ECU to his car after I had it delivered to me and I could only find one place in Glasgow that would fit and code it which cost him an additional £100.....and that was A for Audi. I phoned up several stealers and the reply was the same that they wouldn't touch it as they hadn't diagnosed the problem even though the ECU was removed and the new one ready to fit and code.
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    Could a new clock/key/ecu be fitted without too much hassle? A set with known codes from the same car.
    As the breaker you bought the replacement ecu from told you it would be an easy job to fit and no SKC was needed id suggest sending it back as unfit for purpose/not as described. You could probably buy a whole set of clocks/ecu/keys from another car for that money.

    Can anyone confirm if vagtacho will read the doner ecu SKC in the car or just the cluster? pm will do.
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    Just to agree with what's already been said, this guy didn't have a scooby what he was doing. This shouldn't put you off remaps though, just him.

    I hope you get paid for your expenses.
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    Next time ask others on a forum like this... There's plenty of well known mappers out there that we would all expertly give our opinions if we've used them.. This bloke obviously don't touch many audis... Simply plug and play and most just add a generic map over your existing map unless its a custom map... But I'd of put a thread in here stating you want a map your from a said area can anyone recommend anybody local.. I'm sure there would be 2-3 options
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    Threads like this make my **** itch.

    Lack of research, and taking your vehicle to a monkey are the issue here. If you actually had it remapped by a reputable company it would have been spot on and you wouldn't have had any issues.

    Your stupidity will stop others making their vehicle perform the way it should have from the factory. This thread; all ********.

    This should serve as a lesson to everybody; do your research before blindly letting somebody touch your ecu.
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    So he was trying to "chip" it as opposed to re-mapping it?

    I was going to say... if he was re-mapping using a cable that would be some serious short/over voltage.

    But since its soldering then obviously that's the problem here - as others have said, it is worthwhile going to a reputable company where your ECU is concerned - even a single dodgy figure / check-sum in a map can wreak havoc.
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    Big fish tuning by any chance, in stokesly? If so, oh dear avoid like the plague. They apparently don't make any of there maps there all generic cow ****, and they have no idea what they are doing, anyone associated with them I wouldn't let touch my car.
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    Where are you? If you can get the ECU to me I can code it all for you.

    Rick
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    Thanks dad lol
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    To be honest I know of 8 cars he's done fine before mine and there cars of people I know etc but I wasn't aware of the methods he was using so I guess I could of asked how he does it but then again I just assumed he would of performed it te correct way it's just my luck I guess that it was my time for him to balls it up
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    Pm'd you rick
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    Time to name and shame....thats terrible
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    Sad to see :(

    Well I can vouch not all tuners work like this, the mapping that we offer doesnt usually mean removing the ECU

    If there is anything I can do to help please feel free to ask.

    Awesome Mike
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    I work in the Electronics industry and I think that looks repairable, it looks like he tried to remove it by mashing a soldering iron in to the join and quickly pull the legs up (not the way to do it) As long as the pads arent too damaged and too many lifted it should be a relatively simple repair

    Also, this made me chuckle:

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    now I can vouch for your remaps mike LOL
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    hi pal,im dying for you to name and shame!
    this guy must be a clown to do that to an ecu,you do need to let us know soon pal so nobody on here ends up going to him!
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