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Discussion in 'A3/S3/Sportback (8P Chassis)' started by mramage, Oct 17, 2013.

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    Looking forward to seeing what Niki can do with the S3. I had bluefin on earlier in the year. It was good, but I think the stronic torque fooling was starting to cause it confusion. It just wasn't right. Back to standard and fine. I'm hopeful that both an engine and gearbox remap will do the trick.

    I'll report back here after it's done, looking forward to this and particularly interested to see what he car is putting out as standard.

    Long trip down from Glasgow, early start tomorrow!!!!!!
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    Hi mramage

    I was thinking of buying the bluefin, do you know if this is a common issue (torque problems) with the S-tronic gear box?

    Cheers

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    Hello mate. I can confirm nick can work his magic on the S3. Mine is a 2009 (59) and I went down in march and it made 277bhp and 268ft lb of torque standard and after stage one it made 304bhp and 356ft lb. Huge drive down that enjoy the ride back
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    No, not common. The guys at superchips were great and tried to resolve the issues and in the end I got it reset and sold it on. This is no slight on bluefin, but with my car it didn't play nice. It's a 2009 59 car. I waited and ran the car for several months standard to confirm gearbox was good so happy to go R Tech now.

    jonny1985, cool, nice figures!
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    My S3 is a 2011 and I have recently had revo 2+ on it and I'm with you - it feels like the DSG box is doing some funnies and holding back torque or something - dont get me wrong, it goes well but its not a vast improvement from Stage 1, which I was running prior.

    With Revo not having any software for newer DSG boxes then I'm thinking about R-Tech myself for a custom DSG and engine map.

    Look forward to reading an update :)
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    I'm sure you'll be pleased with the results, I've had mine done a month now and still makes me grin like a loon!!

    Did you decide on the linear throttle map or standard?
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    standard figures are abouve the factory settings ? hows this lol
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    I have a Bluefin on my 2007 S3 manual and it pulls like a train. I am very pleased with it.

    I was at R-Tech 2 weeks ago today with our GTI 1.8T and Niki worked his magic on the car Standard was 153 bhp with was +3 bhp compared what it should have left the factory with 15 years ago.. On the way home it was like a different car, I should have had it done years ago.
    They were keen to have a go on my S3 when I mentioned that I had one but as said already, I am happy with the Bluefin. Niki did say that the S3 would benefit from a Pipercross air filter as I am keen to look OEM where possible. I bought one of these but there is quite a knack to get it in the air box without it slipping down inside the case as it is slightly smaller than the OEM paper filter.

    I would be very interested to hear if they get your car on the rollers without your front bumper touching down. I have seen some photos of an 8L S3 where the front bumper was removed before going on the rollers.

    As I got a bit of the tuning up bug for the S3, I also fitted one of these today from AMD as they are having good reviews elsewhere. Mine is the later version with the black piston and stiffer internal spring for the Ko4 turbo:

    http://www.gfb.com.au/products/blow...suits-late-model-vag-euro-applications-by-gfb

    Whilst it is very early days at the moment, it certainly seemed to hold the boost well and there seemed more urgency getting back on the gas after shifting up the box.
    I know that Niki has tested the different versions of the OEM diverter valve and gets the best results with revision G.
    Let us know how you get on!

    Peter
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    Dean, can you give Revo/SRG HQ a shout (01327 301 901) or PM me, something doesn't sound right. You should be pretty much blown away with the improvement from Stage 1 to 2+ as many will tell you on here.

    Regards, Steve
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    Good to here R-Tech are getting more notice on here. Nick knows his stuff!

    What are you having? Engine and DSG? And at what level?

    PRT57: Should go easy on the rollers mines on coils and I lifted them up a bit and was fine, when on stock suspension it wasn't a problem
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    [Oct 18, 2013]
    Cannot wait to find out how you got on, as I'm looking at the same RTech Stage1 for my 2.0TFSi Quattro



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    I fancy taking mine to niki it is a trek but for the price diferance between what he charges for live mapping compared to all these generic maps that people fiddle with
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    Yerh mind more was higher than the standard bhp and torque. When I spoke to nick about this he just said its a strong engine and is putting out that little more bhp than standard . but with a stage 1 map on it still went to the same bhp as if the stock bhp was correct
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    Well worth the journey mate an as you say price wise it's probably gunna work out cheaper. Don't know how far your got to go but I travelled 200 mile round trip 3 times and I wouldn't hesitate doing it again.
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    Based in Kendal so it's probably 160 miles is guess each way , how long does he keep them for normally
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    What a day. First off thanks to Nick, Ben and Marcus for being so helpful. Great bunch of guys.

    Secondly a warning to anyone who uses bluefin... I was told back to standard was exactly that. Turns out it's messed with to make it harder to remap elsewhere. Nick was great and took the extra time to fix it.

    I originally got bluefin earlier in the year, but the first map was for a manual and the car just held back as if I'd hit the brakes. Second map felt much like standard. Third map was better, but somehow not right. I visited superchips and came away with a little more oomph, but an unhappy DSG. It changed at odd times, clunked a bit and held back after WOT change. Worst was when it decided to not select a gear! They tried another map, but no luck. The logging I did showed the torque platue at 400mn. Hmmm. I took the map off and the car has been fine for months. I'm just stating the facts here, my experience on my car.

    Today after the superchips residue hassle I have ended up with 304bhp and 359lbft. The average torque is lower, but still north of 400nm. You can draw your own conclusion on that.

    Now the DSG feels just like it did, no funnies on my earlier 100 mile drive, no hesitation on upshift. It just works. Nick did up the launch control RPM and demonstrated. Much fun!

    I'm very happy. Everything everyone says is correct. These guys have a real passion for what they do. If I need further work, I'll be back.

    Oh, the car didn't scrape the rollers.

    Any specific questions, let me know.

    Oh, standard was 266 and 288. A little down on others, but no matter in the end.
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    That must have been one long day for you!

    Glad to hear you are happy :)
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    Hi, I am pleased that you had a successful day and thank you about the information about the front not hitting the rollers
    As I mentioned earlier in the thread, I have a bluefin on my S3 which is a manual. I do not notice any holding back on my car, are your symptoms specific to DSG cars as I cannot remember inputting whether my car is a manual or a DSG when downloading the Superchips map onto the Bluefin. Can they tell what gearbox the car has when you upload the standard map to Superchips in the first place?
    Any more information about this would be excellent as I am worried about your Bluefin news in relation to my manual car or is it only concerning DSG cars. I thought back to standard was exactly what you expect, what were the problems Niki experienced?
    Regards,
    Peter
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    Peter, just DSG. Manual should be fine :)
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    Sounds like an excellent result.. Keep us informed how things pan out and settle over the coming weeks.


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    Excellent results!!
    Glad nick sorted it, and as for launch control I'm sure he up'd it to the level mine runs! Mines the one on his Facebook page lol
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    That's nothing mate. Not much further than me, well about an hour more but worth it. If you want a simple stage 1 I'm sure it'll be done in half a day a 2+ map and DSG is a full day job.
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    Nice to here its sorted for ya mramage. Where about in scotland you from and wat your s3 like?
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    Mine is just manual but will be going stage 2+ already got a loba clutch kit just need a loba hpfp and exhaust then get it mapped
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    2+ will probably be a full day but that's 9.30-16.00 and on your way.
    To make the most of it make sure you've got a decent intake and if its 2009 onwards check your intercooler to make sure it's not the plastic end tank one as you will need an uprated one to get better results as I found out the hard way! Plastic = rubbish!
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    Yeah I'm thinking itg or revo race one and its 2008 so its metal one which is a bonus !
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    Both really good, but speak to Nick I think he prefers the ITG over the revo.
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    [Nov 4, 2013]
    Ok folks. Reporting back after 2 weeks. That's 400 miles return from London and 1.5 weeks of commuting etc.

    Obviously the car is quicker. With the linear map and progressive power it's as I wanted. Not much difference until it's past 3K, but no sudden rush, just controllable power. Was fun getting the back end out the other day, it's easier now.

    Anyway, DSG. The increase in a clutch pressure is quite obvious. Changes are more confident, sharper. It's also a little quicker to bring in the clutch after lifting from the brake. Nothing drastic, all just that bit quicker. As anyone with DSG knows it does occasionally screw up a bit with a lower speed changes. That does mean those do get felt more, but it's a tiny price to pay and to be expected. Most impressive though are the full throttle changes, perfect. No delay, no issue. Essentially it's like DSG turned up 11 and frankly it's great.

    For anyone debating the linear mapping at R Tech it's nice to know that more throttle = more power all the way to the end of travel. Easier mid corner control and as I said the extra power helps with getting the tail out.

    If anyone has any questions let me know. Anyone wondering if it's worth driving 300 miles to R Tech. Yes, it is.
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