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Prawn and BigAls A3 Track Car

Discussion in 'A3/S3 Forum (8L Chassis)' started by Prawn, Dec 29, 2010.

  1. Westy
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    Westy Double Dark Side! Diesel & 8P

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    It would have been better if he hadn't told you it was done till this time on Friday :)
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    I felt this pain when my car went in for the hybrid conversion...
    I took the call at work to say it was done and all was well... At this point in the conversation i was putting my coat on and telling the boss "im off, i need to pick it up"
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    Prawn My other car is a MINI!!!!

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    It's awful isn't it? If niki were open until 9 I'd head up there right now. Haha.

    Cool new dv fitment has solved a few fuelling oddities:

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    I think Rob said final figures were 290bhp/260lbft, but they tested it to 328bhp without pushing the turbo hard at all!
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    superkarl MAN OF STEEL

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    more more more!!!
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    Prawn My other car is a MINI!!!!

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    Tested on the dyno to 328bhp :)

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    Final figures 290bhp / 260lbft:

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    Very, very happy indeed!
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    What boost did it make 328hp at?

    what boost is it running now?
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    Good work mate... :thumbsup:

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    Prawn My other car is a MINI!!!!

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    I think Niki said it peaked 21psi on the 328bhp run, but the load map has been taillored to tail off at the top end to cap power generally, so rather than rewrite it for the power test he just upped the whole load a tad, so 21-22psi peak but tailling off on purpose at the top end. If it were left to hold it's peak boost to the redline I'm sure it'd be well over 340 and replicate the welly results!

    Very happy with it indeed :)
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    Sweet, what boost is it running now then on its reduced power map?
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    Prawn My other car is a MINI!!!!

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    Not sure at the moment Kev, I'm sure I'll find out everything on Saturday :)

    Can't wait!
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    Dane Faster than a V12 Q7

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    Nice one prawny, glad its going well and making more power, agu's for the win it would seem
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    great news Nick! Coming along to the next Ace meet in it yea?
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    Sounds great Mr Prawn, you will have to learn to get the power down without lighting up the street now...:)
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    Prawn My other car is a MINI!!!!

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    oooooooooh yeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaa :racer:

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    AGU for the win indeed Mr. Nutting! large port everything and higher CR have to be helping :)

    Danny: will be at Ace on tuesday for sure. Will text you.
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    I bet Saturday can't come quick enough Nick,what time are you looking at ?
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    Prawn My other car is a MINI!!!!

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    I'll have to check with Bigman who's taking me over, but I'd like to be there as early as possible, so half 9-10ish I'd think. they open at half 9. not sure I could manage to wait until later!
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    Hopefully ill get to see it then nick, im booked in 9.30 on saturday.
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    Prawn My other car is a MINI!!!!

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    oh wicked, I'll see you there then! You having a stage 1 or 2 map on yours?
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    Stage 1, and after a bit of pestering and supplying of the goods, a new thermostat lol.

    Cant wait for saturday, knowing im going to see your animal is just the cherry on top.
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    Aim low score high is the only advice I can give you for meeting Prawn, you do know he is a 5ft nothing Thai bloke? Hence the nickname.

    Pester him to take you out in it, it will be eye opening! :p
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    Would just like to take a moment to compliment all on this thread. It should be made into a book or a TV series. Best read I have had in ages. Its killed an offshore shift and I thank you for that.

    Fantastic work Prawn. Superb car. Cant wait to watch the youtube clips once i get a pc with flash running on it.

    Once again. awsome, superb, entertaining etc etc etc:respekt::applaus::anbet:
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    Lmao, noted.

    I suppose if he's gonna be taking it for a run theres room for a little one in the passenger seat ;)
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    Prawn My other car is a MINI!!!!

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    Glad you enjoyed it :) I've enjoyed writing it too, it's cool keeping a log of everything that's happening.

    I can't believe how far it's come in 14 months, from an MOT failure shed to 328bhp beast, it's been an amazing journey!

    Really sorry to dissapoint dude, but I'm not the 4ft china man Jardo tries to tell people I am.

    I am infact a 6ft2 fuller figured gent of English origins! Prawn just rhymes with my sirname :p

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    Nice ferry pic there mate. Is that the one from last years Nurburgring trip? Nice weather :)
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    Prawn My other car is a MINI!!!!

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    but yea, more than happy to take you for a ride dude :)
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    Prawn My other car is a MINI!!!!

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    Sure is Westicles :)
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    At 5ft 7 I resemble this spoken prawn more than you do.

    And excellent stuff, look forward to it mate.

    Btw I watched them Ring videos on your youtube, lovely bit of driving.
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    Prawn My other car is a MINI!!!!

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    Ta very much, hope to get back out there this year, would be nice to get down to close on 8 minutes with the new found power! A chap I knew has done 08:06 in a focus RS with 300bhp, so i think it's an achievable goal
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    8:06 on a tourist lap with the home straight closed? Or was it a private track day? Got any vids?
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    Sometime in the near future I would love to get out there for the first time. It will be very interesting seeing how much difference the said power is going to make. Im sure its going to make it more difficult to drive quickly.
    Either way im eagerly anticipating seeing another video with the new power.

    I always wonder if increasing the power on FWD makee lap times much quicker..

    Did it feel asif it could take more without ridiculous understeer and lift off oversteer at 220bhp nick?

    I suppose if the diff is similar to the RS then should be awesome. How much is the difference in power to weight fron yours now to an RS?
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    Prawn My other car is a MINI!!!!

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    Open pitlane trackday Westy, 150mph under the bridge which gains him some time, video is here:

    8:06 BTG Lap at the Nurburgring on Vimeo

    Jims RS is 300bhp, and 1250kg, so 240bhp/ton, and I think they have a quaife ATB as standard.

    Mine is now 291bhp, and 1100kg, so 264bhp/ton, and also has a quaife ATB diff, so higher power/weight, with similar BHP figures for top end pull once aero comes into play.

    It’s a strange one with regards to the power, as a road car, on the typical ARB’s & coilovers setup most people run, it felt a fair handful with 220-230bhp, and you wouldn’t have wanted much more. The engine far outweighed the chassis.

    Now with all the suspension work done, the LSD, and the sticky tyres, it felt slow and desperate for more power, the chassis far outweighed the engine, even though the engine hadn’t changed from the previous incarnation!

    So in answer, yes, I reckon it could take LOADS more power without upsetting it too much, the ko3S was also very punchy with a big torque spike, which didn’t help traction, whereas the new setup looks like it’s going to be incredibly smooth and just keep on pulling and pulling. We’ve also got the option to turn it down to actuator pressure using the EBC if needs be, around 260-270bhp, so I think it’s something that’ll be easily tamed.

    On the ring there are lots of long fast open sections, so I think adding power will make a big difference, especially up ‘horse power hill’ where previously we were flat out at 105-110mph, and the porsches were pulling 140+ due to their power
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    Well that answers my question perfectly, briing on the 8 minute times then.
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    Prawn My other car is a MINI!!!!

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    It does help doesn't it! Not sure how much by though....

    I reckon sub 08:20 shouldn't be a stretch really 08:40 was with skinny old 205 pirelli track tyres, 20psi over inflated, and 210ish bhp. 290bhp and A048R's in the correct size should help things a great deal
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    It's not so much the hitting the bridge at top speed as you can hit it quite fast on a tourist day. The main difference is the private track days are limited to a small number of cars so there's hardly any traffic or workers repairing the armco to slow you down.
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    Prawn My other car is a MINI!!!!

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    yup, people talk about clear laps with no traffic and no idiots, something we can only dream of at the moment! All my previous timed laps have had traffic hold ups, and you always think 'it'd be 08:30 if it wern't for him' kind of thoughts, hence why on the last trip I didn't bother filming or timing anything. just enjoyed it for what it is :)
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    what tyres are you running or would you recommend on a remapped k03s daily driver. was thinking falken 452's
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    I'd recommend Eagle F1 Asy2's or Contisport 5P (or 3 if they're not available).

    If you want a cheaper option, then look at the Hankook S1 Evo. Falken 452s are getting a bit old these days.

    Plenty of other threads on Tyre choices though, so please dont clutter this one up with it!
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    Prawn My other car is a MINI!!!!

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    one more sleep until car comes back!!!!!!!

    *excited*
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    Get yourself into bed at 8pm, ill be doing the same!

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