Hi all After having a good hunt around to find a GPS system and thinking that it's just another highly stealable (is that a real word ???) piece of kit and what else can these things do for me anyway except to tell me what I already know when I'm lost . . . I thought I'd get myself a PDA with sat nav included. No wires, self contained and removable. www.totalpda.co.uk Acer n35 + GPS + TomTom 5 + speed camera database = £149 + vat & del. These things are selling for cost on ebay without the GPS, so there's no real bargains there . . . Anyway, hope this is of some use to you guys and gals!