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Discussion in 'A3/S3 Forum (8L Chassis)' started by anderswhk, Mar 28, 2012.

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    Thinking of fitting a Pipecross panel filter on a 1.8T. The stock one performs fine, i am only looking to get some more sound from the engine. I dont want cabin droning tho, as i often drive family members around. Will i get droning from fitting a Pipecross on it?

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    I used to have a k&n panel filter that didn't drone. No noise increase at all
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    i heard that k&n filters are bad for this particular engine because they use oil on them. is this true, and if thats the case, would i be better off with the pipecross panel filter?
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    What Audi are you running with 200bhp?
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    On a turbo engine you dont get that loud throaty noise that could drone that you do on an n/a engine. Sounds a touch more meaty but 90% of the noise is turbo spooling whistle.
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    a3 8l 1.8t aum 150 hp. had it remapped yesterday and it had 162hp at the dyno before the remap, so the mechanic suspected that it had a k04 turbo with stock settting, but did not check. 202 after.
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    should have the ko3s and shouldn't be much louder if louder at all with a panel filter
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    I can get the pipecross panel filter very cheap. If all im gonna get is louder turbo spool, then i dont think im gonna bother.

    To be honest for someone that uses the internet as a source of information, it sure is confusing. I can find atleast 20 threads from various other automotive forums that suggests cold air intakes give slight performance gains, while others claim they do the exact opposite on normal street cars. my mechanic told me cone filters are generally a bad idea unless i wanna go through my maf sensor faster. I didnt ask him about the panel filters tho.
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    You know what he probably said k03s instead. He was spouting alot of mumbo jumbo and i didnt understand half of it :)

    Wasnt expect more than around 180-185 after the remap, so i was pleasently surprised.
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    When i think of cabin droning, i think of those people with fart can exausts. being inside the cabin is not a good experience. they all have those mufflers and a cold air intake, and i wanna void that humming sound.
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    My Carbonio ROARS very deep raspy intake, sound nice on full boost when the turbo whistles.

    My opinion of "Pipercross" is typically Stage "Halfords" - there's alot more options out there
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    Yeah k&n aren't really too good for te MAF due to the oil. That's why I said used to have. I now have a Jetex cone filter.

    If you can get it cheap then I'd just go for it. If you don't 'like' it once fitted then sell it on.
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    Not really sure what you mean by Stage "Halfords" (Not british). What panel filter would you suggest instead?
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    He is saying pipercross is a cheap and chavy brand. In his opinion of corse. In my opinion it's a well know and good quality brand.

    I'd recommend a Jetex panel filter, personally.
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    Panel filter wise, green cotton is the best with a amoothed aribox, been proven time again. If yu want the best possible intake to allow the engine to breath then either buy a jetex or bmc cone filter, and unlike what your mechanic frins said cone filters, if bought from proper companys and secured properly will not kill a maf any quicka than a standard setup.
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    I have a pipercross panel filter fitted in my Audi but my box is drilled and smoothed plus has a cold air feed pipe from the front bumper and it's fantastic I did have a Simota induction kit fitted and my car just hated it and I never looked back now so I would say go with the pipercross mate there not that expensive and work really well
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    if you want a pipercross panel filer for cheap drop me a pm i have one and its only done about 300 miles maximum
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    Cant get any of those brands that have been named in this thread, like Green cotton or bmc. Dont feel like waiting weeks for them to come in, pipecross are fairly cheap, can get them for around 25 gbp. might try it out, thanks for the repiles guys
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    How did you make this? Drilled a hole and added a rubber tube of some sort?
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    Hi anderswhk mate right firstly just used the existing hole in the airbox to squeeze the pipe into fitted great then ran it to the front bumper cut it out and fitted a air trumpet and tasty mod that makes a big difference for me hope the pods help mate see below

    The bumper mod
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    The feed to the the airbox
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    Hope this helps mate any more info u need just ask mate cheers !
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    Green Cotton every time!
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    Looks great, think im gonna try something similar, just not quite digging the idea of cutting the bumber.
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    you dont have to cut the bumper mate u can just run the pipe down to it but i want to run it outside and its a great mod but the choice is yours

    good luck whatever you decide mate
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    Okay so im about to order the Green Cotton panel filter from AUDI - Waxacar Green Performance Air Filters

    A3 has k03s with a gfb divertervalve, 200hp. otherwise stock. should i be getting the filter intended for the 150 a3, the 180 (think its called Sport here) or one for the s3?

    Oh, and by the way do you know if they ship outside the UK? Having a hard time finding any info on that.
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    i use a pipercross pf and its brilliant nowt wrong with em and halfords pffft

    the pipercross filter is well constructed and not a halfords barrrp filter
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    this is cock cone filters are fine they are just more exposed to engine heat so at speed its fine but in traffic jams etc the heat blds up in the engine bay. its not a real issue tho its down to preference alot people use them for the sound only others make use of the performancegains with cold ir feeds etc on my R5 gtts i monted the cone in the scuttle to avoid heat soak
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    Plus the scuttle is a high pressure area so the filter would have a massive amount of cold air hitting it. Probably one of the best places for it to sit if you`ve got the usual grille type scuttle ^^
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    great, but that doesnt answer the question about what panel filter i should get, seeing as the car has a little more hp than stock, should i get a filter made for 1.8ts with more power? does it even matter?
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    mine is a 1.8t with a remap and i use the pipercross and would say go for that

    been considering the scuttle on a3 but dont want tohole saw the car i dunno i might lol
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    Ive ordered a green cotton panel filter............smoothing out my air box........is it that simple? or do i need to do anything else? cheers
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