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One touch windows open/close intermittent fault

Discussion in 'A3/S3/Sportback (8P Chassis)' started by -Ju-, Mar 25, 2012.

  1. -Ju-

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    I'm having a few gremlins with the S3, nothing major but would just like to iron a few of them out.
    Firstly the one touch open/close on both the front windows stops working, after I reset them the're ok for a while but randomly stop again.
    Secondly I can't open and close the windows from the remote either, have tried different coding in VCDS but can't get them working.
    Lastly one of the keys stops opening the car via the remote. It still starts the car fine etc. and then works ok via remote after that. My other key works fine, but then again it's only a spare so not had much testing.

    Not sure if any or all are related but it's booked into Audi on Thursday and I just think they'll try and fob me off
     
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    Sounds like convenience module gremlins to me, have you tried new batteries in remotes, how are you closing with fob, holding for a longer period, assuming your codings correct.

    I would remove all keys from the system, then recode all remotes to the car again, also go into each door module & check for any dtc's, if none, then recode the module with the non auto run option, then come out, key out of ignition, then key back in, back to door modules & code them again with auto run, see if helps.
     
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    Yes tried new batteries and its happened again. I've also tried different codings for the auto open and close from the remote.
    Only dtc's at the moment are for key number 2 and also one for the fuel level sensor in the instruments module, that comes back when its been run low on fuel.
    Tempted to leave the car as is for now until its been in as its still under warranty.
    Do you think it could need a new convenience module?
    Cheers for your help Nigel :thumbup:
     
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    Given all the errors except fuel sensor are based on conv module, stands to reason, but if its under audi warranty, let them sort it :)

    Which fuel sender warning as the 4wd has 2 pumps with senders under rear seats iirc.
     
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    Here's the VCDS scan results for the convenience module and the instruments,

    Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 8P0-959-433.lbl
    Part No: 8P0 959 433 J
    Component: KSG H11 0080
    Coding: 18802020027F6D298D0D485AC637
    Shop #: WSC 06314 123 12345
    VCID: 438E4F5E028EF9B


    Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
    Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H03 1301


    Part No: 1K0 907 719 C
    Component: Neigungssensor 005 0003


    Part No: 8P0 951 177
    Component: Innenraumueberw.H04 0020


    1 Fault Found:
    00956 - Key 2
    005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation - Intermittent
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments Labels: 8P0-920-xxx-17-MY8.clb
    Part No SW: 8P0 920 981 L HW: 8P0 920 981 L
    Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H22 0660
    Revision: D0H22003 Serial number: 224DG003100377
    Coding: 0037428
    Shop #: WSC 00681 210 91829
    VCID: 418245561892EBB


    1 Fault Found:
    00771 - Fuel Level Sensor (G)
    014 - Defective - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00101110
    Fault Priority: 7
    Fault Frequency: 2
    Reset counter: 152
    Mileage: 69238 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2012.03.18
    Time: 11:27:03

    Not sure how the coding in 46 is compared to others, but that's how it came out from the dealers when they changed the passenger mirror lens. I've noticed also the key in the lock won't open and close the windows either.
     
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    Module 46 bytes 5 & 6 look interesting, seem to contradict eachother, have a play with byte 5, plus resync the keys to remove the basic setting error.

    00771 - Ross-Tech Wiki
     
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    Had the car booked in for Thursday but I can't make that now as I'll be working away, I'll give it a go tomorrow

    Cheers
     
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    Thread revival....

    My drivers window has been stopping and going back down once the one touch click has been done...

    it will then keep doing this and then after a couple of goes it refuses to move via one touch and I have to hold it.

    how do I reset this?

    Im thinking the seals are too tight as you can hear the motor slow as the window goes up.

    whats best for softening the seals? bit of heat? fairy liquid?!

    cheers

    Mike
     
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    You have to hold the switch down until the window gets to the bottom, hold it a few seconds and then repeat the same while shutting it.

    I did have the window motor and door switch replaced and although it seems better, the one touch has stopped working once. It's not done the dropping back down thing though so looks to have made a difference!
     
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    Cheers mate! I'll give it a try :)
     
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    You may need a slight adjustment of the upper door frame so it has a smoother curve allowing window movement freely, there are 2 bolts for this on the door, even a mm adjustment will do it.
     
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    Hi Nige, How do I go about adjusting that?
     
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    Worked like a treat. just a matter of time until it does it again!
     
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    You loosen each bolt & just move the smallest amount, do up, not fully, but enough to hold still & test window, there are adjustable hex bolts aswell that are part of the same fixings but inside the door, but I dont think you'll need to touch these, yet, if at all.
     
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    I'll have a butchers, a little bit hesistant to start messing as I'll undoubtably make it worse.

    It'll end up like the UPS vans with no doors like in the US.

    Ah well. play on.

    Cheers Nige :)
     

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