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Discussion in 'A3/S3 Forum (8L Chassis)' started by jdas03, Jun 29, 2009.

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    Hi, new here, hope im not asking too much of a noob question.
    have been offered an s3 on a 51 plate with 75k on the clock for £5800. firstly is this a good deal? secondly what problems do i need to look for with this age of s3? the other issue is i have seen there are two different power s3's how would i know whether this is the 207bhp or 225?
    Thanks in advance

    Jonny
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    That seems like a low price for the mileage, so if you don't know the person, make sure this is not a con... Check all the usual things on the car and listen for strange sounds when turning the steering wheel. Check car's history and make sure your double-check the mileage on old MOTs and service entries. It sounds a bit too good to be true, but with the current downward price trends in used cars, it's not surprising.

    To find out the power of the original engine, look for the engine code, which is always stamped on a piece of the engine block near the cam-belt. Based on the registration of this car, I would probably say that this one is a 210bhp (APY or AMK engine). I prefer this one as it's much cheaper tax for what is essentially the same car and after remap, you will get the same power anyway.

    Look at this thread for each engine's power rating: http://www.audi-sport.net/vb/showthread.php?t=14784

    Further advice on A/S3s can be found here: http://www.audi-sport.net/vb/showthread.php?t=14737
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    i picked up a 2001 Y last week for £5600 with 72k on the clock
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    cheers for the information. i do know the bloke. it seems ok. a few things do need doing tho.
    It needs a new drivers door sensor i think as when you close the door the computer still shows it to be open and the light stays lit. any idea how much one would set me back. Also where would you go about getting a remap done on the car as if it is the 210 wouldnt mind doing this, and is it something you need to tell the insurers?

    many thanks for your responses
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    the door is prob a door module about £70 thats if they are the same as a golf . loads of places for maps CC,Revo,AMD to name a few revo gets you a 5hr free trial too
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    AMD is meant to be a good remap :)
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    you should tell the insurers, but ive heard loads of points of views, they cant tell if its been remapped as all cars are mapped differently anyway, or a man from the insurance comes out and can check in a matter of minutes. its too much money foer the insurers to even bother checking. I persnoally am not going to tell them. but any other mods yes. i still need to tell them of my 007 and panel filter :O
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    Brilliant cheers will have a look into that then. Only other issue I've got is insurance spent pretty much all of yesterday ringing round companies with very few competitive prices. Are there any particualar companies anyone can recommend for young drivers? Cheers
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    Try telling them you do alot less miles a year. Sometimes helps!

    Otherwise i'm afraid young driver and 200+bhp equals high premium. How old are you?

    Don't let them spoil you having a decent car!!
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    im with bell.co.uk, there 1800 for me, an s3 was 3k :( couldnt afford it, but happy with my a3...i tell them i do 3000 miles a year, with bell i put my mum as a named driver and it saved me 1k, try doing that.
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    I heard REVO is the Best! :)
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    Thanks for your help. I'm 21 so insurance is still on the 3k line. Got a quote of 2400 with admiral but rang them up and if I tried to pay monthly the premium went up to near 4000!! I don't know how they work that out! Rediculous add on simply for opting to pay monthly. I'm doing a massive call around to insurers today as I refuse to let my age prevent me from the car I want! insurance is such a joke when your young!
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    We've all been there mate, don't give up... Don't dismiss specialist insurers. I'm with Greenlight, who charge me 400 fully comp, with 4 years NCB, without a garage and living in NW London (Zone 3) and that's with all mods declared. Admittedly, I'm 28, but Admiral wanted to charge 900 for the same, without mods. Just shows you that many insurers just pluck a figure out of the sky and charge that.
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    ive tried a company called micheal ward today they seemed nice, said theyd call me back once they have got some quotes but that was around 6 hours ago so not so sure. thanks for all the info guess im gonna have to keep on shopping around. if anyone has any other advice please let me know :)
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    This problem may not be as simple as you think! I had exactly the same door/light issues you describe above, and I had the door lock replaced as the sensor is part of the lock. (I think it cost about £100 including fitting).

    The DIS now shows all doors closed but my internal light is still nackered and the problem is the electronical part of the central locking pump costing £300!!

    Check to make sure that the alarm works fine on the car you're looking at. If it does then it will probably just be the door lock but if the alarm isn't arming then you may need a new pump.
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    Have you tried the likes of Adrian Flux, Brentacre, Greenlight (I think that's what they are called)?

    Also, re-map it and don't inform them at your peril.
    You get caught after an accident and not only will you have your policy cancelled and they won't pay out...but you'll not get insurance anywhere else either.

    If you can't afford the insurance for a modified car...don't modify it.
    Just enjoy it standard.
    You have to pay to play...at all ages. It's not pleasant...but better than the consequences of not informing them. If they suspect...they WILL find out, no matter how clever you think you've been.

    After all, how would you feel if some uninsured (which is what you effectively become) tosser hits you in your new pride and joy?
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    hows its still 3k still, i could of waited a year to get an s3, but couldnt wait, with 2 years experience and 2 ync's my premium was going to be £1600? .


    check bell. !! that was with my mum on the insurance, the same works for admiral, or any other family member.
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    I wish I had an admiral as a family member!

    I'll get my coat :jester:
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    why is ure insurance soo high! i got insured on a evo fq300 this year. just turned 22. that was only 1300 and my s3 is only 800 now :D bargain lol :yahoo:
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    problem with me is i have been a named driver on a car for ages and this will be my first policy on my own so the prices are sooo high. checked admiral and got a good quote of 2500 but gota pay it all at once so having to get a credit card to pay it, as monthly they charge a total of 4200 with the added interest lol cheeky buggers!
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    3k at 21!? im 21 and just done my insurence and it was £789 fully comp, 3 yrs no claims, 1 claim, 4 years driving
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    On the insurance front try churchill! They were the best for me £870 (23 2 years no claims but no accidents driving for 6 years no points) but then I do have a huge excess! a £1000 to be exact! :-S
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    Jesus wept! £1000XS?
    I moan about having £100XS!
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    Yep, Its a pain but it was the most affordable way of insuring the car! £250 xs on the car £250 xs on being 24 or under then my voluntary is £500 (I'm really not planning on crashing!) It's worth raeding the small print on all insurance polices as I thought at first I was only signing up to a £500 excess! but hey what can ya do! I'm going on the theory that I would pay a grand before claiming on my insrance anyway to protect my no claims.
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    which insurance company is that with?

    i paid 1500 fully comp with 3yr ncb no points 3yrs driving no crashes. n my excess it like 800. but i am only 20.

    just wanting to know for next yr? :yes:
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    i didnt know this :( think im paying £750 volentry !!
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    its easily done mate! espesh on online quotes, but hey its done and like I said I would pay a grand to keep my no claims anyway!
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    hi mate,


    test drive it for a long time, fast slow, test everything.


    i brought one around a month ago, and ive only just been able to drive it. cost me £2.5k to get it going again.... with still more to pay out for.....
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    that sucks!
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    tell us more what went wrong?
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    I can recommend greenlight for young persons insurance. I just bought a '52 S3 and Im 22, 6 years NCB, 1 non fault claim (someone reversed into my car while parking...ggrrrr), no convictions, added my 65 year old dad to policy as a second driver which seems to help a lot. Limited milage to 6000

    In terms of mods, that covers me for remap, cat back exhaust, filter, Uprated ARB's, suspension kit (Bilstein dampers with H&R springs). I think thats everything.

    Oh, and the price is £880 FC for on street parking in the middle of cambridge with the mods. Admiral wanted about 1400 off me and Adrian Flux didnt even get close.
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