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    Hi all, I'm due to replace 2 tyres on my a3 and I'm thinking of buying some good quality tyres instead of budgets, can anybody recommend any tyres that they have tried and tested that are any good.
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    Vredestein sportrac 3's are the best i've tried.
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    Vredestein sportrac (as above)

    Falken FK452 (as many know)

    A little known one is, Lassa - impentus sport (very good feedback from a few motorsport drivers who we supply tyres to and no nagative customer feedback)
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    Eagle F1 Asymmetric2 or Conti Sport Contact 5P's are about the best you can buy.

    If your looking for a cheaper option then consider Hankooks S1 Evo 2.
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    i just got some toyo proxies T1R, im happy with them, work well in wet and dry
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    I've just ordered 4x 225\40\18 Goodyear Eagle Asymmetric 2 on the strength of web reviews, but won't have any experience of them 'til after next weekend when I expect to have covered 600 miles or so ..if you want to wait, I'll let you know how they are. But tyres are generally an individual choice and it really depends on what you want\expect from them.

    I'm replacing Conti Sport Contact 2! Had Toyo T1R on a previous car, they're a 5 year old design and it shows IMO.

    Have a look at some recent reviews Here and customer reviews can be found Here.
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    Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta - they beat virtually every other tyre in reviews, and come HIGHLY recommended on Evo and Scooby forums. Don't accept anything less!

    Check out tyre reviews website, and Camskill for decent prices.

    Big up ya Nan!
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    The goodyears are awesome, ive got them on both my cars, and they really are superb.

    Sessantas are alright, but they dont come close to the Eagles or Contis mentioned above in the reviews i've seen.
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    Cheers guys I will make sure I check out all the above that's been mentioned, and artimus let us know how you get on with your Goodyear eagle 2's.
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    The Goodyears, i've been through the Conti SCs and the Bridgestone Potenzas and the Goodyear F1 Assy II are awesome!! Great feel, low road noise and really good in the dry and wet compared to the others I've had on this car.

    And I got a great price on some more the other day, the correct XL fitment tyre etc from HiQ, 2 new fronts at £101 per tyre fitted!!! Couldn't find anything anywhere near that cheap online.

    For that price you won't beat them.
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    Just fitted some RE-11's and they are awesome so far. Look awesome too...
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    Not with our weather!!! haha, I think the sales pitch is "not recommended for low grip wet weather street use". I bet they're awesome in the dry though.
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    Haha well I usually take it super easy in the wet anyway but the 452s on the rear seem to struggle a bit more. With the blue haldex controller, its usually pretty easy to get it a bit out of shape pulling away out of a junction etc.
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    Best tyres should always go on the back.
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    Im running Goodyear Eagle F1's at the mo they seem class also i had toyo proxies on my type r they were good
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    I'm currently running T1R's, good in the dry but not confidence inspiring in the wet. Gonna try Uniroyal rainsports next.
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    Good but sidewalls are soo saggy and you`ll end up losing steering response compared to other tyres with a stiff sidewall. I know T1R`s arent that strong either but they`re stiffer than the Uni`s.
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    Toatally with you here the Bridgestone Potenza is the best tyre i have ever had, still really grippy at 2mm, expensive though but worth it.

    Looking for decent budget it would have to be Kumho, had a set of these on me xr2, seemed to last for ages
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    This is a cert !!
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    Ive tried the goodyears and currently have the 5p' on my a4 at the mo.The 5p is the best conti to have, the 3 was pretty poor.Both are superb wet and dry, but both suffer the same problem in that the sidewalls are very soft.Very noticeable coming from bridgestone s001's.So much so that youd think you were in a citroen.But if its grip you want both will do you well.
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    I'm currently running Michelin Pilot Sport 3's and they are extremely good in all conditions.....best tyre's I have had on an S3 to date.

    I used to always run Pirelli's (swapped between Pzero and Nero) but will never be going back to that brand- I'll be trying the Goodyear F1 Asymetric 2's next as I want to see what all the fuss is about with them :) Not heard one bad review about them from an S3/A3 owner
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    I've heard some people say that. There's crowds that argue both ways. Seems strange to me to put the best tyres on the rear when it has the least weight, gets the least power through it, does not steer, and does the least amount of braking. I do understand why some people say it though, understeer is deemed "safer" than oversteer, or did you have another reason?

    Regardless, the 452s are on the back because they're cheaper and I've not got my camber sorted just yet. When they go, they'll be replaced with RE-11s.
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    There's a lot of people talking about tyres having soft sidewalls, does everybody fit the Extra Load (XL) tyre that Audi recommend? I was told it was noticeable in that the sidewall was stiffer...

    I found the Toyos whilst gripping are generally pretty awful, they move around alot under load and suffer really badly with shoulder wear - and that was on a car that weighed less than 1,000kg.
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    If you hit a body of water and aquaplane and your rear tyres have less tread than the front tyres, then the back end of your car will lose traction faster than you'll ever be able to react to catch it, it's much safer for the fronts to aquaplane than the rears because you can use your brakes to control it if you've still got grip on the rear wheels. Aquaplaning tends to happen at higher/motorway type speeds too. I'm all for playing with the rear end of the car at 30mph on a roundabout, but i'm not into trying it 70mph+ on a busy motorway.
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    the OP hasnt given us his budget yet. everyone is just naming the most expensive tyres here.
    and everyones preference is different, with different driving styles, different setup cars, and different power levels.
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    When you say 'some people' are these people all with S3's or are they from the BMW club who have 50/50 weight distribution and RWD ;-)

    Personally I would always prefer the tyre's with more tread on the back....like you said there is less weight at the back - so therefore when you do hoon around horners the back needs to get as much grip as possible but with less weight than the front has.

    With there being more weight at the front, it's easier to control an S3 that is mostly FWD with less tread at the front... until the grip is lost at the front wheels and then the rears kick in....logically the rears are only kicking in because the front has lost grip- So if you were to have even less tread on your tyres at the back- you would not get as much help from the Haldex and keeping you on track/road as you should, so therefore it would be alot harder to 'save' with all 4 wheels losing traction.... rather than the rears keeping you in line and safe :)

    Ohh and beanoir's aqua planning is a nice example- but I don't expect you get that much rain down under!

    Anyway that was my 2pence worth....*awaits* for someone to come and pick it apart! lol
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    The idea is that you can feel whats happening with the front tyres thru the steering wheel, and thus you drive to the limits of those tyres.

    With amazing front tyres, and ****ty rears, you can hoof it into a corner, plenty of grip and feedback thru the steering wheel, then the back end lets go, without warning, and your pointing the other way. I've been there, done it, got the tshirt (or brown trousers...), as has a mate of mine as i'll detail below.

    With the stickier tyres on the rear, you know that you should never exceed their grip levels, as the front will let you know its struggling first and you'll be aware of the cars limits, and can drive accordingly.

    An interesting caveat is that tread depth isnt everything. A few years ago my friend bought a corsa with bald tyrse, and picked up a cheap set of 14" steels with "good" tyres off ebay for it. We applied the above logic, and given two of the tyres looked fairly new with 6-7mm of tread on, we fitted those to the rear, and the other two (2-3mm of tread) on the front. He drove it home, found a wet roundabout and promptly spun it and had someone plough into the front of him. We were puzzled, he couldnt understand why, he wasnt driving fast and the steering hadnt felt bad/slippy etc. After some pondering thinking it might have been diesel or similar, we realised the rear tyres were bargain basement linglongs or whatever, and the fronts were michelin or pirelli or some premium brand. As a test he swapped the linglongs onto the front, and was horrified as to how little grip they had, now that he could actually feel what they were doing thru the steering wheel. With them on the back, he'd been completely unaware until he crashed.
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    [Aug 14, 2012]
    I don't think the OP has asked for advice on where he puts his tyres, just which ones people recommend....
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    Your point?

    Its a discussion forum. Tyre installation position came up in the discussion, so its being discussed.
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    Too bad, he's getting it!
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    Not making a point, just an observation, so don't get your panties in a twist!
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    LOL from all angles as well!
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    To be fair the OP has stated that he wants to replace 2 of his tyres and not all 4....so if he needs to replace the 2 fronts it maybe a better option for him to swap the front's to the rear once replaced so that he has the newer ones at the rear ;-)

    Anyway OP - what brand are the other 2 tyres you have on the car at the moment, and are the 2 new ones for the front of rear?
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    this may be a silly question but what difference will the XL make? safer for the alloys?
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    I run XL and yes, basically a stronger side wall, better for your rims (XL -= Extra Load)

    & yeh if you are putting new boots on ensure these go to the rear
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    Stiffer sidewalls are designed for lardass cars like and ours means that under hard cornering and breaking (when the tyre wall is under significant load) the tyre sidewall will not be inclined to fold as much and you retain greater control, feel and less "Squidginess" when giving it the beans.

    It does also give extra protection to your rims. The trade-off though (which technically shouldn't be a trade-off as its the recommended tyre specification from factory) is if you haven't been using an XL tyre and then switch back to using them, you may notice more road noise and less comfort.
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    Cheers, so i think I've decided on a nice set of 4 Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2's to replace my Pirelli P6000's, judging by the reviews the Goodyears should be a hell of alot better than my P6000's
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    +1 for vreds last 4 sets i got these never looked back.
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    It's the rears I'm replacing but was going to put the new tyres on the front as I've always been told put the newer ones to the front if it's a fwd. can't remember the brand off top of my head, just know they are budget tyres.
    Also I haven't really got a budget
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