For the benefit of any of your new members Bowfer hates is DSG and his A3 nearly as much as I love both my A3 and the DSG. We have had many 'discussions' about the merits or otherwise of the DSG in pasts posts. The main problems seems to be that he did not try a DSG before ordering one and as it does not behave how he personally wants, it's all a bad design and all Audi's fault. Some of us did try the DSG before ordering, knew exactly how it would work, liked the way it worked and would not want to change it. Personally I have no problem, especially in tip-tronic mode, of pulling out smartly from a roundabout or from a junction in a flow of traffic. My car also never changes up half way through a corner because I change up myself before my car ever reaches max revs, just the same as I would with a manual. I obviously drive in a different manner to Bowfer.