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New 8V S3 - interesting...

Discussion in 'A3/S3/Sportback (8P Chassis)' started by Ben H, May 29, 2012.

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    It's going to be very hard to choose between this and the new M135i, which is very competitively priced and will offer even more tuning potential with its 3.0 litre lump. :( I think it' really going to come down to whether the Sportback body can offer much more than the 5-door 1 Series shape and how attached I am to 4WD.

    Taken directly from Autocar:

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    Europe’s burgeoning hot hatch ranks are set for a further injection of premium-brand performance when a new, 276bhp Audi S3 is launched at the Paris motor show in September.


    Previewed here in our artist’s impression, the latest in an ever-expanding S-badged line-up from Audi will reach UK showrooms early next year, priced from about £32,000.


    That will put it in close competition with the £30,000 BMW M135i hatchback unveiled last week and the Mercedes-Benz A45 AMG that’s set to star alongside the S3 at Paris.


    Audi had looked at fitting the new all-wheel-drive S3 with a detuned version of the RS3 Sportback’s 2.5-litre five-pot engine. But instead, the S3 will use a turbocharged 2.0-litre four-cylinder engine that will feature in a whole host of other Volkswagen Group models due to its compatibility with the new modular MQB platform.


    Whereas the old S3 used the VW Group’s decade-old ‘EA113’ engine, the new car is the first to receive the high-output version of the new ‘EA888’ unit.


    The engine gets an all-new turbocharger and is equipped with the recently launched Audi Valve Lift system. This provides variable control of the valve lift and, in the process, the size of the inlet tract for added low-end response.
    Insiders are claiming a 276bhp output in the new S3, plus a torque figure of 280lb ft.
These are rises of 15bhp and 22lb ft over the old S3’s engine.


    As well as extra muscle, 
the new Audi S3 will be up to 80kg lighter than today’s three-door S3, courtesy of a series of weight-saving measures, tagged under the Audi Ultra banner, that include the use of aluminium for the bonnet and wings.

    So despite being 22mm longer, 201mm wider and 21mm taller than the previous S3, the new three-door is expected to weigh less than 1400kg.


    As with the car it replaces, the new S3 will come with a six-speed manual gearbox as standard. The optional six-speed S-tronic dual-clutch will be replaced by a newer seven-speed unit that goes under the codename DQ500.
    Apportioning drive to each corner will be an updated version of the Volkswagen Group’s multi-plate clutch four-wheel-drive system.


    In keeping with previous incarnations of the S3, the third-generation car promises to better its predecessor in pure straight-line speed.


    Following initial in-house performance tests with recent prototype versions of the new car, insiders have told Autocar that they expect an official 0-62mph time of 5.5sec for the three-door hatchback — some 0.2sec faster than its predecessor. Top speed, like that of the outgoing second-generation model, will be limited to 155mph.


    The suspension uses MacPherson struts at the front and a multi-link set-up at the rear. Adaptive dampers will also be standard, as will Audi’s Drive Select system, which alters throttle response, shift patterns on the auto, the electro-mechanical steering’s feel and spring settings.


    Setting the new S3 apart from more sedate versions of the new Audi A3 will be a series of styling upgrades. These include a bold single-frame grille, a deep front bumper with large air ducts, chunkier sills and a prominent spoiler above the rear hatch. Added to this will be 18-inch wheels shod with 225/40 tyres.


    Following the three-door S3 into showrooms will be a five-door S3 Sportback, with greater levels of rear seat accommodation and boot space. A new S3 saloon is also being readied, although it remains to be seen whether it will form part of the UK line-up.
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    32,000 for 272bhp :ermm:

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    Aaah - clearly beaten to it, but there weren't many replies to the other thread? So, how do I make this one more popular...

    ...mention the fact that an M135i is cheaper and more powerful?
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    BMW or Audi? Well Audi it is all day long!!!
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    The new 1 series is bloooody ugly!
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    I'll wait till its out!
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    Just like the previous 1 series, having owned a few BMW's I know how well they drive compared to Audi's, but feck me the 1 series is bad like the CLC mercs..
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    The 135 doesn't look too bad with the M body kit but a normal F20 in Sport or SE spec just looks wrong.
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    To be honest the previous shape 3Dr 1 Series didn't look too bad in the M-Sport spec.
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    I'm not going to runout and put down a deposit on a new S3 if it only has 270 hp and a body style that is slightly different. TBO I really like the body of the current s3 and i prefer the interior setup. Pop up screens on the dash don't do it for me. The climate control is a little retro for me. i will give it a chance but the version above is a waste of money. I hope VW changes its mind and puts some real horsepower in the new audi cars. They won't and they don't care much about us because we comprise such a small segmemt of the buyers
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    Only 276bhp??
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    2 litre engine and 4 exhaust pipes! err, a bit overkill.

    seen the pics of the undisguised s3 on autocar. looks tame
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    Once again guys - that silver 3-dr is NOT how the new S3 will look, it's a completely undisguised mule, with an S-Line body and S3 running gear. They're not going to be driving around in a car that isn't launched until September with the final production bodywork undisguised. If that ends up being the S3 styling, Audi will have officially lost a customer.

    The image at the top is what Autocar thinks it will look like, based on recent trends and a few insider tips. It's also the 'notchback' small saloon (which should look much better than the 3-dr).

    Look familiar? Notice the front bumper is EXACTLY the same?
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    Looks tame on paper, certainly on the `next car`list though, along with the new 3 series 335i/d.

    Agree the new 1 er is hardly a looker but will reserve judgement til the M Sport with all tinsel on it and fat rims etc. is released. Having said that, its better than the old one, which was a right mong, even in 1M guise IMO.

    Would miss 4WD though.

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