ok so im not that handy with a welder, but enough to make good welds. altho it seems i have left one little hole, nothiung major so ill get back under there at the weekend, all in all it took 4 hours, including cutting setting up, tacking then fulling welding and various breaks so the pipe it self i bought 3 meters to be sure and bought 6 45 degree bends and a rear exhaust can, i also got s/s wire, cutting blades and tips. so all come to £168 so basicly for now ive gone from the downpipe at the original location, but will buy 2 more 45 drgree bends and some 60 degree to make up my downpipe, although im not sure if to go 3" as i have a 3" decat to put on ive got no before pictures but heres some on the car during, then finnished and one on the floor just before i was to seam weld the joints. out of 2 meters i literly had about 6" of pipe left. would have been a close shave if i didnt buy 3! basicly if your good with a welder im just posting this to show you can aviod paying over £350 for what you can do for half the price and a few hours of your time! ok so its not a pro job, the welds arnt the best ie seam welded goodness. and the hangers are spare threaded bar i had. but it does the job nicely. no ones going to be looking under my car so for me its all good. of course if your pukka with a welder then obviously you could have it done better, or better still, cut and tack, then take to a shop to have welded up. i did consider but was doing it for expreince and enjoyment more then looks, ill get a vid up as soon as i got someone else to hold a camera!