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More dash lights than a Christmas tree!!!

-Ju- Dec 30, 2009

  1. -Ju-

    -Ju- Well-Known Member Team Panther VCDS Map User Audi S3

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    I've had a new 09 cluster sat on top of my kitchen cupboards for a few weeks now and today out of curiosity I decided to try plugging it in. Big mistake, I knew it wouldn't start and didn't even try, but as soon as I plugged it in it brought up a brake fault. When I plugged my original one back in I got all sorts of dash lights.
    I've managed to sort one of them which was the steering but I'm left with 3 lights esp, tyre pressure monitor and abs.
    I've checked vag com and I have many faults which all point to the abs being incorrectly coded/adapted but I've no idea where to go now.

    Anybody know how to get me out of this pickle without throwing myself on the dealers:(
     
  2. 1wheelonly

    1wheelonly cabriolet VCDS Map User

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    do you have a previous scan of the car, before you swapped the cluster, you must have saved a scan at some point, pull one up and cross reference the codings to what your getting now.
     
  3. NHN

    NHN Retrofitter - Audi - VW - Skoda - Seat Site Sponsor VCDS Map User

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    Just post up your errors so we can advise the correct fixes.
     
  4. -Ju-

    -Ju- Well-Known Member Team Panther VCDS Map User Audi S3

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    Unfortunately I didn't save a scan :banghead: and I'm just recharging the laptop. I'll post the codes up when I can. I did reset the steering as per your thread, NHN about the 09 cluster swap but when I go into 17 and try the adaptation in block 37, that block is for brake wear indication.

    I can't remember off hand but there were 3 faults within the abs unit

    Julian
     
  5. -Ju-

    -Ju- Well-Known Member Team Panther VCDS Map User Audi S3

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    Managed to get these out before my lappy went flat again

    Address 03: ABS Brakes
    Control Module Part Number: 1K0 907 379 E
    Component and/or Version: ESP ALLRAD MK60 0104
    Software Coding: 0004744
    Work Shop Code: WSC 06314
    3 Faults Found
    01279 - Longitudinal Acceleration Sensor (G251)
    005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
    00810 - Sensor 1/2 for Brake Pressure
    005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
    01423 - Lateral Acceleration Sensor (G200)
    005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
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    Address 22: AWD
    Control Module Part Number: 1K0 907 554 A
    Component and/or Version: HALDEX 4Motion 0105
    Software Coding: 0000001
    Work Shop Code: WSC 00000
    1 Fault Found
    01316 - ABS Control Module
    013 - Check DTC Memory

    There is also a fault in address 2 Auto transmision but I can't find the log now. It says see DTC's in ABS module

    Just had to push the car into the garage as well due to a flat battery.......Not having a good night!!!!
     
    Last edited: Dec 31, 2009
  6. Dana @ Ross-Tech

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    Once you get it back on line, post up the complete auto scan. I have had problems after replacing some 2009 1K ( VW ) clusters. Depending on the installed modules and actual fault codes, I may be able to advise.
     
  7. -Ju-

    -Ju- Well-Known Member Team Panther VCDS Map User Audi S3

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    Will do tomorrow

    thanks

    Julian
     
  8. -Ju-

    -Ju- Well-Known Member Team Panther VCDS Map User Audi S3

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    Got a full scan done this morning:-


    Gateway Installation List: 1K0 907 530 D

    00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
    01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    22-AWD -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    55-Xenon Range -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
    62-Door,Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    76-Park Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
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    Address 02: Auto Trans
    Control Module Part Number: 02E 300 046 D
    Component and/or Version: GSG DSG 0632
    Software Coding: 0000020
    Work Shop Code: WSC 06314
    1 Fault Found:
    18255 - Please check DTC Memory of ABS Controller
    P1847 - 000 - -
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    Address 03: ABS Brakes
    Control Module Part Number: 1K0 907 379 E
    Component and/or Version: ESP ALLRAD MK60 0104
    Software Coding: 0004744
    Work Shop Code: WSC 06314
    3 Faults Found:
    01279 - Longitudinal Acceleration Sensor (G251)
    005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
    00810 - Sensor 1/2 for Brake Pressure
    005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
    01423 - Lateral Acceleration Sensor (G200):
    005 _ No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
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    Address 22: AWD
    Control Module Part Number: 1K0 907 554 A
    Component and/or Version: HALDEX 4Motion 0105
    Software Coding: 0000001
    Work Shop Code: WSC 00000
    1 Fault Found:
    01316 - ABS Control Module
    013 - Check DTC Memory
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    Address 72: Door, Rear Right
    Control Module Part Number: 8P4 959 802 B
    Component and/or Version: Tuer-SG 010 0030
    Software Coding: 0000216
    Work Shop Code: WSC 06314
    1 Fault Found:
    00935 - Electric Window Motor; Rear Right (V27)
    005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
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    Address 01: Engine
    Control Module Part Number: 022 906 032 GJ
    Component and/or Version: MOTRONIC ME7.1.1G 7001
    Software Coding: 0000178
    Work Shop Code: WSC 06314
    1 Fault Found:
    16398 - Bank 1: Camshaft B (Exhaust): Retard Setpoint not Reached (Over-Advanced)
    P0014 - 008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
    Readiness: 0000 0000

    The Engine fault is a seperate issue and has been ongoing for a while and the Door rear right fault has been there since I got the car!

    The fault in the Auto trans will delete but comes back when started, but the faults in the ABS and AWD won't delete at all

    Don't think I'll bother with the 09 cluster after all!!
     
    Last edited: Dec 31, 2009
  9. fizz

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    Have you tried clearing all faults?
     
  10. -Ju-

    -Ju- Well-Known Member Team Panther VCDS Map User Audi S3

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    Yes mate, numerous times!
     
  11. Broken Byzan

    Broken Byzan Photographic Moderator Staff Member Moderator VCDS Map User quattro Audi A4

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    Doesnt the ABS section re calibrate itself when driving a few miles?
     
  12. NHN

    NHN Retrofitter - Audi - VW - Skoda - Seat Site Sponsor VCDS Map User

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    Some do self calibrate but you may need to calibrate these mentioned options manually as per the 8P once you put a different cluster in, now if you just unplug yours & dont put a different cluster in & just plug yours back in, then the systems reset auto usually when driving a few miles with some turns, but different cluster causes errors that need manual reset
     
  13. -Ju-

    -Ju- Well-Known Member Team Panther VCDS Map User Audi S3

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    I've done about 5 miles this morning and there still there, I'll have a mess around later but I've got so much to do today!!

    Cheers All :icon_thumright:
     
  14. Dana @ Ross-Tech

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    Give this a shot. It might not fix it, but cannot hurt at this point.

    1) Recode the gateway to the same value. It will re-fresh the list, and I would just copy and paste to eliminate any possibility of error.

    2) Recode the ABS module to the same value as well.

    3) Follow the Basic settings instructions on this page and follow with a test drive: http://wiki.ross-tech.com/index.php/Audi_A3_(8P)_Brake_Electronics_(MK60)
     
  15. NHN

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    Dana, although it wont hurt I have to disagree with recoding overall, that link shows the manual calibrations I was mentioning, recoding the modules wont fix the issues here, you have to calibrate them full stop given the ecu/car overall sees a different cluster was fitted, you dont need to recode any module as the MK60 is the same unit used on the MK5 & the 8P as I mentioned earlier, its a calibration fix only afaik
     
  16. -Ju-

    -Ju- Well-Known Member Team Panther VCDS Map User Audi S3

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    Many thanks Dana and NHN, will try it on Saturday as I'm away till then.
     
  17. -Ju-

    -Ju- Well-Known Member Team Panther VCDS Map User Audi S3

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    Right I got it sorted this morning, no recoding neccesary. All I had to do was to go into the basic settings on the brake pressure sensor, Lateral accelaration sensor and the Longitudinal sensor and it automatically set everything up and cleared the fault codes!

    Thanks for all the help :thumbsup:
     
  18. Dana @ Ross-Tech

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    Nice! I have had some nasty experiences with 2009 (1K) Jettas after replacing the instrument clusters. The ABS would not run basic settings tests and the Brake Pressure sensor fault, etc. wouldn't clear? After a several hour episode with the first car, the re-code of (19) and (03) enabled the Basic settings to run.

    That said, Glad yours was a simple fix. :)
     
  19. NHN

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    Yeap coolio.
     

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