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    No vorhees have you tryed branston bake beans im a hienz man to but these top the list , you no when you do a fry up then do the been's in the shyte that's left mmmmmmnnnnn that's how these taste ..try em

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    '10', I love your posts, they always make me smile or laugh out loud. When I go shopping tomorrow I'm going to buy some Branston beans and do a fry up Saturday morning!
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    [Nov 12, 2009]
    1. Toaster: Dualit 4 slice
    2. Trainer:Converse Chuck Taylor Allstars
    3. Camera: Nikon D3X D-SLR
    4: Sauce: Tabasco (Red)
    5. Torch: Maglite (4D cell)
    6. Multitool: Leatherman
    7. Computer Mouse

    Ok, list so far, i'll compromise, but surely the Leatherman isn't iconic enough to make the list?
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    You've forgotten the beans beanoir. With a name like that how could you ? I'm a Heinz loyalist but like 10 says these Branston upstarts do have their merits. I think the mouse is a bit too generic personally. I did think about nominating the ZX Spectrum but didn't for the same reason. Best thread of the year this. I feel like I'm getting to know some of you.
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    [Nov 12, 2009]
    +1 for beans

    A true Uber snack, high protein high fibre, low fat, and perfect air biscuit fodder.:icon_thumright:
    I`ll have mine with scrambled eggs please (yokes removed bar 1 of course).:happy:
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    Yeah but Audi servicing is ****.

    Whoops, wrong thread. ;)
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    [Nov 12, 2009]
    1. Toaster: Dualit 4 slice
    2. Trainer:Converse Chuck Taylor Allstars
    3. Camera: Nikon D3X D-SLR
    4: Sauce: Tabasco (Red)
    5. Torch: Maglite (4D cell)
    6. Multitool: Leatherman
    7. Baked beans


    Mouse gone....

    Other things I've been thinking about but am reluctant to put up for a mention:

    > The Sky+ box (A brilliant idea let down by average aftercare and so so design)

    > iPhone (First product in about 10 years to regenerate innovation in the mobile market, achieve TRUE convergence of web, music, games and phone, and take the touch screen system to a new dimension - BUT high prices, Apple's gestapo control of unlocking, and for Apple a slightly glitchy OS let it down)

    > Philips Living Colour LED lamp whilst not instantly recognisable, this product has moved on the game in the lighting world combining user control with ultra low energy consumption. Its eco, user friendly, and trick all at the same time. Won't make your dinner but it's pretty good.

    > The AGA cooker range. Like the Dualit toaster, this product has been around for years. The bit I can't make up my mind about is whether I would want one. I like the fact it's been evolved for the 21st Century and converted to clean burn fuels, but I can't help thinking I'd rather have this

    > The Pioneer PDP-LX 5090 Plasma TV 50". Probably the best plasma TV we'll ever see as Pioneer have dipped out of TV making and handed over the mantle to Panasonic to make their tubes. It picture has been the benchmark for nearly 3 years by which all newcomers are judges. It's modular so you can buy it your way. A true champion in the AV world and one that will be remembered for years by enthusiasts.
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    [Nov 12, 2009]
    Beans is a good call, I was waiting for the brand to be decided before it could graduate to the list, if I have my vote its Heinz too, i've got 4 tins of Branston ones in my cupboard that haven't been touched.

    ok, how about the original Atari instead of the mouse?

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    S3 or Cayman? Mmmmm......
    :think:
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    Pitfall for the 2600.:icon_thumright:
    Damn straight!
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    ....maybe this thread makes the list? Thats an interesting dynamic eh?
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    hehe, I remember those days, seems like only yesterday when this thread was so different, so young, so...on topic.

    We're only doing this now to divert Warren's mind away from the topic of buying a new car and leaving the Audi fold, thats how comitted we all are!
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    I'd agree with the Atari call if the rubber covering the joystick stick didn't keep coming off when I was attemping to beat my mum's high score in pacman.

    Never did beat it, so that's my excuse, and one i'm sticking with.
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    [Nov 13, 2009]
    I thought the whole point of The List was to find brands that fulfilled all those credentials rather than simply an iconic item. The computer mouse has to go :beee:
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    Volkswagen. Even little green men from Mars know what that logo means :yes:
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    [Nov 13, 2009]
    Imortalised in music by the Beatsie Boys....Err.

    Talking of music, should Darkside of the Moon not be on the list? And Blue Lines, and Stone Roses (self titled)....?

    Am I of topic off topic?:uhm:
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    That as well! :happy:

    Well if you're having Heinz baked beans in the list :puke:

    Are we going to music as well? This is going to be a long thread :wacko:
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    [Nov 13, 2009]
    Music is too subjective - the thread then just becomes a list of what people like.
    The products listed need to be pretty much beyond dispute. Is anyone seriously going to say that Maglites are ***** - no. Everyone who has used one will agree that it is a wonderful product - totally fit for purpose and of undisputed quality.
    I don't like Converse Allstar (make my feet look too long and thin) but I can set that opinion aside and appreciate that the product itself is a timeless classic, well designed, does what it should perfectly and has transcended passing trends with ease.
    Volkswagen is an interesting one - the original air cooled VW Beetle (my first car) has a real case for inclusion. Anyone want to make that case ??
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    Me! In one word...icon.

    Love them or hate them (I'm in the first camp, had a couple) you can't deny their worldwide presence and instant recognisability. Everyone knows what a VW Beetle looks like. They were in production for 60-odd years and I believe, the world's second-most produced car after the Toyota Corolla, which doesn't count by the way, because there are 80 zillion different types and nobody knows what any of them look like.

    Beetle please. If you hate Beetles tough s**t, I hate baked beans and I'm not complaining :p
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    :wub: Nice one Paul, liking your tastes. Just needs updating with something current, like Tiesto (Trance/Prog FTW). Can't see how music would fit in though.

    Need to invest some time and get some ideas together. :readit:

    EDIT: got distracted when typing so Iggu has already mentioned about music.
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    [Nov 13, 2009]
    Excellent case well made. In Warren's absence I'll take the responsibility and add this to "The List". He can delete it if it doesn't deserve to be there but I'm convinced personally.

    1. Toaster: Dualit 4 slice
    2. Trainer:Converse Chuck Taylor Allstars
    3. Camera: Nikon D3X D-SLR
    4: Sauce: Tabasco (Red)
    5. Torch: Maglite (4D cell)
    6. Multitool: Leatherman
    7. Baked beans
    8. VW Beetle (original air cooled)
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    Million Mexican taxi drivers can't be wrong! :happy:

    Just in case the Beetle's position is in any way shaky, I'd like to reinforce the quality engineering side of things. We all may laugh at it now but for it's time it was a revolutionary bit of design, but also strong and simple. With basic maintenance (and in some countries a ton of rustproofing) they go on for ever. Damn, I'm talking myself into wanting another one :beee:

    And the baked beanz should be Heinz, if anything. I know a good case was made for Branston but even a Yank knows what Heinz beanz are :yes:
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    [Nov 13, 2009]
    Im struggling with the Leatherman gents.
    Never even heard of it :think:
    Not saying it isnt a great tool, but Ive worked in Engineering for 19yrs and I dont even know if I have seen one.

    Also Ive eaten toast for the last 35yr and have never heard of a Dualit?

    BUT even though I have never burgled a house, or used a Maglite before, I know what one looks likes and that it is a legendary bit of kit.

    Not suggesting list inclusion requires an entry to be a household name, however can it be on `The list` and be obscure at the same time?

    Anyhoo, as its Friday, what about Newcastle Brown Ale?? Its not just any old beer, and you can walk into a bar just about anywhere on the planet and they will have `Broon` for sale.
    What say you?

    cheers
    Paul
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    Stanley Knife, or whatever they're called elsewhere.

    EVERYONE knows what they are, EVERYONE has used one, and EVERY ONE of them looks pretty much as they did when they first arrived on the scene, apart from the odd ergonomic change.

    Think it meets every one of the criteria for 'the list'.
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    And not just because I'm a trendy fanboy in skinny jeans and a p***pot helmet (I'm not) how about the Vespa scooter? They are automatic now, and some of them are cooled by water and absolutely huge, but the basic design is the same i.e engine/transmission/rear wheel all together under the rider's arse, and a pressed metal body for the structure instead of a tubular frame...fairly unique/ubiquitous/universally recognised, don'cha think?
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    Good call
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    I agree that a Stanley Knife meets most of the criteria but it's not exactly a difficult design, it's just that they made the first/cheapest/most durable (whichever!) and it became a household name. I don't think that instantly allows it on the same list as the others, especially as most of their other stuff it ****. Looking at the rest of the list every other brand makes all good stuff and there's one bit of kit in particular that excels.
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    Dyson vacuum anyone? Sure it wasnt the first vacuum or even the first bagless one but most people who have ever had one know how easy to use and what a great design they are, also the customer service on them is pretty good, no fannying around. :)
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    ...and a torch/toaster/converse trainer/baked bean are difficult designs??

    I think the fact that, 1) Stanley Knife has become a household name and 2) no matter which other manufacturer makes it, they are pretty much all referred to as a "Stanley knife" should cement it's place.
    Other than Hoover and Coke I can't think of anything else that has managed this, and even with those two we all know they are really a vacuum cleaner and a cola drink. But can you give me the proper name for a Stanley Knife?? "Retractable cutting implement"?? "Sharp thing to cut up boxes that will take off your finger tips if you're not careful"??
    I can't think of many other brands that have achieved this.

    Also, other than Baked beans and VW there isn't another item on the list that is as well known or as widely used as the good ol' Stanley knife.
    I mean lets be honest, how many people can picture off the top of their heads a Dualit 4 slice toaster, or a Nikon D3X D-SLR camera, or a Leatherman??
    I can't.
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    [Nov 13, 2009]
    2 more...

    -Tannoy (PA system really, but who calls it that?)
    -Thermos (Vaccuum flask really, but who calls it that?)

    Actually the `Thermos` is worthy is it not?

    Elegant design, household name, evolved little since conception with repeatable performance.

    If its to make it on the list then IMO it should be pretty well known if not a household name.
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    Thermos flask is a very worthy candidate :hi:

    I was thinking of the GM/Chevrolet 'small block' V8 engine as well. Been in a very lot of vehicles (not just cars) since 1955 and the bones are pretty much the same...but it's not a 'household' name like Stanley knife, Thermos flask, VW Beetle et al.
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    Can't argue with either of those really. And for me a lot more worthy of being on the list than a Nikon ABCDEFGHIJK123456789 camera (or whatever it's called), or a Ducati (??) toaster!!
    Even though I don't know how well one browns bread and the other takes photos, i'm not doubting how great they are; but in terms of being "iconic" and having their own little place in most people's lives I would definitely put Stanley knife, Thermos, and Tannoy before those two.
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    Raleigh Grifter :lmfao:

    That takes me back...to really hurting myself as a kid. I hated that bike, every time I tried to do anything a bit fancy the 11 tons of bike would automatically smash to the floor creating a massive crater and trapping a very skinny 9-year old under it until mountain rescue came.

    Horrible bicycle- luckily mine only cost me 2 Sinclair Spectrum games as a swapsie - my m8's mum gave him a right kicking for swapping his bike but I think he got the better deal to be honest
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    10B your posts never fail to make me laugh. :salute: Why the hell do you call a fryup a donjay? hahaha.:respekt:

    As for the 1 ton Grifter I feel the pain. Had to lug one of these beasts around for years until I got me my first BMX, oh the shame of breaking the ramp instead of going over it! :laugh:

    Gotta be BMX up for consideration too! Or MBR for the more mature rider.
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    I can. :)
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    And don't forget....

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    And wasn't there one with an automatic type gearstick in the middle too??
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    I think the Stanley knife covers of form and function. It's not an exceptional piece of design, but it's not had to evolve much since its introduction, and is one of those special cases where the brand name covers the product name (a la Hoover etc.).

    Old skool Beetle HAS to be on there.

    And Dark Side of the Moon is definitely an iconic album.

    Whilst I love the Chopper bike, having never owned one, is at actually any good at what it does. THere is a fashion icon; of it's time, but unless its perfectly formed these things pass by. The fact they are still being SOLD today can often be a good measure of how iconic it is. The hard part is knowing whether the latest or earliest incarnation is the classic. I guess it depends on how it integrates new ideas on top of the original concept, and how successfully.

    I think 10Blazin's posts are dangerously close to making it onto the list because no matter how dark or painful a thread can get, he ALWAYS makes you laugh and realise things aren't so bad. Player!
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