Feels like it's been a bit of a soap opera, and in summary I went out wanting fast metal and ended up with a games console & a copy of Forza 3 At least it wasn't predictable, and I think these threads are always a bit more interesting with a bit of tension and opinion thrown into the mix Talking of bikes (MTB), my bro-in-law called this weekend to say he's bought a Merida hart tail race spec MTB. Never really heard of them, but supposedly they are buying Specialized out??? Looks a decent bike, but I already have an MTB so won't be joining him. I'd like a motorbike but don't trust other UK road users enough not to target me for extermination. I'd rather stick to an Exige/Atom/Caterham whenever the budget allows for these roads. Don't think you'd ever mirror the sense of speed you get off a bike though. And to boot I think we've seen some new forum romance kicking off between H-B-D and S3GG, so all it's all ended well really At the end of the day they are just boxes with badges and a price tag. I think somewhere down the line I forgot this to!!!