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Discussion in 'A3/S3 Forum (8L Chassis)' started by ScottyKemp, Sep 12, 2003.

  1. ScottyKemp
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    [Sep 12, 2003]
    Just got an S3, soon will be chipping when i get bored of standard BHP, Chipping should see 250 - 260 BHP I guess.

    What is the next stage after this i.e Bigger Turbo etc.

    Anyone know what the costs of bigger turbos are ?
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    Do the exhaust and boost controller after or before chipping mate. Plus replace the standard DV.

    With an uprated hybrid you really need to do the intercooler as well and maybe a water spray which is all big bucks.

    Mind you I'm talking from the Coupe point of view where we can take up the standard turbo up to 1.4bar. Not sure what the turbo on the S3 can handle at a push?
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    Anyone on here know ?
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    ello scott

    Before u think of bigger turbos, you will have to uprate the brakes, suspension and exhaust first. The brakes and suspension are not up to the job after the car has been chipped.
    You can see whats available on these webbys

    http://www.qstuning.com/list_for_car.asp?car=s318
    http://www.auto-amd.com/s3.asp

    As far as what the max boost you can run on a standard S3 turbo, the MTM chip peeks at 1.7bar (25psi) it is considered to get the most of out of the turbo so i dont think u would get much more out of it.

    Tuners links
    http://www.audi-sport.net/ubbthreads/links.php?op=List_Links&cat_id=10&parent_id=1&parent_title=Audi%20Links&title=Audi%20Tuners

    good luck
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    Chipping should give about 265+, but like the guys say look at the physical mod's before the chip.

    Uprated DV is a really obvious one, plus Front Mount Intercoolers & Exhaust. Suspension is a matter of personal preference on the whole, and I'd sort the brakes out too!
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    And to throw a few more tuners into the mixer see below. Check out the individual tuners for prices on turbo upgrades.

    Just to save you a bit of time ploughing through the search engines I've put my updated choice of top/recognised tuners for Audi's (VAG);

    Most recognised within the UK:
    APR - www.goapr.co.uk/dealer/index.html - Good maps and well respected, especially in the US. Just released OBD* tuning. Switchable options using cruise control.
    REVO- www.revotechnik.com/uk/ukrevo.html - Good maps, first tuner to do OBD* tuning in UK. Switchable options using switch (Dongle).
    AmD - www.auto-amd.com - More than just a chip tuner, they are a complete tuner unlike many others. Respect.
    Jabbasport - www.jabbasport.com/Audi/Jabbachips/Contact/contact.html - For those that want to take their tuning that little bit further. Well respected.

    * - OBD = On Board Diagnostic. Tuning which is done via the diagnostic serial port located on the vehicle, so no chip replacement is required.

    Great German tuners:
    Oettinger - www.oettinger.de or www.roadandsport.co.uk (UK dealer) - One of the longest running tuners for Audi's. A great tuner with a great range of products.
    ABT- www.abtsportsline.co.uk/location.php3 - Again a long running tuner with good products. Official Audi chip tuning for The Netherlands, Germany and Belgium amongst other countries.
    MTM- www.mtm-online.de or www.qstuning.com (UK dealer) - Well known for good maps with solid performance.
    SKN- www.skn-tuning.com or contact SKN (UK) Ltd. on www.scottsmototune.co.uk - Not so well known but good products nonetheless

    Other recognised tuners for chips mainly;
    Superchips - www.superchips.co.uk - Regarded as a general tuner offering nothing special, but map on 1.8T does produce good results!
    Wetterauer - www.wetterauer.de - Not so well known german tuner, but still heard of. Used in both the US and Europe.
    DBM - www.dbmengineering.nl - Similar to Jabbasport but in Holland. Nice product range with carbon air boxes. Produced a 420bhp S3 for the road!!
    Bullpower - www.bullpower.nl - Very little known about this tuner.
    Sportec- www.sportec.ch (Even though covered by AmD) - Relatively new to the UK scene. Good torque figures produced with the maps and satisfied customers.
    Powerchips- www.powerchipgroup.com - Hardly ever mentioned on the forums, like Superchips, but look to provide good results. The website is extremely good, and the detailed datasheets provided within minutes of an enquiry are full of info. Available through www.mongooseexhausts.com or www.motorsportworld.co.uk

    All have their merits, and really it's a personal choice, and you have to check around before choosing in my opinion. There are many other smaller tuners who offer chips etc. but are not widely recognised, but can offer options cheaper than above. There are other big tuners such as GIAC ( www.giacusa.com ) that I have not mentioned because within Europe I do not know of a dealer and don't know of anyone running these chips other than Americans and Australians.
    Do not think for one moment that the above is comprehensive, it is only my opinion and based on my knowledge of tuning, the products offered and comments I have picked up on my travels and is intended to be unbiased, but I do have a weak spot for Oettinger these days.

    Gambba
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    Ok thanks for the help, i guess i will not be even chipping the car for a long time, do not want to go to mad yet.

    Just wondering what the power potential of these cars was, I know Jabbasport can achieve stupid power out of the VAG 1.8T Golf Engine, so the S3 should be better.

    When you talk about changing the Dump Valve is it one that makes that annoying whoooshing nice ? Nice noise but i would get a little annoyed after a while.

    Thanks for the Advice
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    Boost controller ??? any more info please
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    I'm running peak boost 1.5 bar on my remapped S3 (turbo set to high boost 9, timing 7). S3 delivers about 275 BHP and 289 lbs/ft.

    No other mods yet though getting a DV shortly.
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    Golf Bygone said:
    I'm running peak boost 1.5 bar on my remapped S3 (turbo set to high boost 9, timing 7). S3 delivers about 275 BHP and 289 lbs/ft.

    No other mods yet though getting a DV shortly.

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    Have you got the rolling road graphs? post them in the gallery if you can! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
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    ScottyKemp said:
    Ok thanks for the help, i guess i will not be even chipping the car for a long time, do not want to go to mad yet.

    Just wondering what the power potential of these cars was, I know Jabbasport can achieve stupid power out of the VAG 1.8T Golf Engine, so the S3 should be better.

    When you talk about changing the Dump Valve is it one that makes that annoying whoooshing nice ? Nice noise but i would get a little annoyed after a while.

    Thanks for the Advice

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    No, the DV is a Diverter Valve, rather than a Dump Valve i.e. it recirculates, you don't get that whooshing noise of air dumping to the atmosphere, you just get smoother gear changes and acceleration /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
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