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Mobile police units

iamwhatiammomo Apr 29, 2012

  1. MrLapou

    MrLapou Well-Known Member

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    It's interesting how speeders are sneaky breaking the speed, only to hit the brakes if they see a police car and or camera..
    If they stuck to the speed limit such sudden braking and potential bad practices could be avoided.
    I laugh at the twits who race by, then all of a sudden hit the brakes when they see a camera, then after a 1/2mile race of.
    But then it's their licence, penalty points and higher insurance premiums at stake..

    People bleating on, cameras make money have themselves to blame. Stick to the limits and camera will take in no money. So it's the motorist who feed these machines..
     
  2. Artimus

    Artimus Shortback

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    Do you really need to be so condescending?

    Mobile Speed cameras are all about taxation! If the areas these camera vans & radar traps randomly pop up at are so risky, why not put permanent cameras in place and save money by not having to pay for an operator and the van?

    UK motorists have every right to feel aggrieved at being fleeced again by money-spinning police forces that use these tactics to balance their budgets! we've already paid tax on our cars at the point of sale, tax to park it on our own property, tax on fuel, tax for fixing our broken roads that rarely ever get fixed and are forced to pay rates of £200 per hour for an M.O.T (£50 for 15 minutes work) that's only really a guarantee of conformity up until the moment you leave the issuing garage's premises.

    Speed limits are, in many cases, set artificially low by councilors that have never driven many of the routes they govern! they take the word of non-driving, pram-pushing mothers as gospel, Police Committees that have a vested interest in fining motorists, the Cyclists Convention and the Green Lobby. Unfortunately our Governments see car ownership as a luxury, not a necessity! their preferred method of transport for the masses is the Public type! their excuse for taxing us to within an inch of our lives - we don't need to drive.

    Mobile Speed Units are less to do with policing speed and everything to do with wringing every last drop of disposable cash out of motorists pockets, and anyone that fails to see that is a sad victim of political brainwashing IMHO.

    anyone want to know the intricacies of speed camera legality should visit Pepipoo.com
     
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  3. mike foster

    mike foster Fossie VCDS Map User

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    Goodness me - you really are bitter aren't you ?!!!!
     
  4. Artimus

    Artimus Shortback

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    and you're very judgmental.
     
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  5. mike foster

    mike foster Fossie VCDS Map User

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    What ? You've just entered into a diatribe slating everything to do with law enforcement, fund raising or safety wise and you call me judgemental ?

    Grow up
     
  6. Artimus

    Artimus Shortback

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    err... I have the greatest of respect for our Police officers & pay my taxes every year without fail! I understand it's not the ones on the streets directing resources to this end, so they can't really be blamed for doing their duty & I'm not blaming them - read what you quoted & know what I've said before attributing your misunderstood assumption to me! I never mentioned Enforcement, you did! I spoke of Speed Traps only.

    I currently have zero points on my license, so have no axe to grind with law enforcement, and am old enough to have been driving for 34 years & with that 34 years (some of it professional) comes a wealth of experience on the matter.

    how's that for mis-judgment?
     
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  7. mike foster

    mike foster Fossie VCDS Map User

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    Ok - if you have no axe to grind with law enforcement then accept speed cameras for what they are - enforcement ! All areas where mobile cameras are used must , by law, have signs to indicate that mobile cameras may be in use. You must assume that the cameras may be somewhere in these areas.

    And by the way I have no points on my licence either, and never have had, and I passed my test in 1962. Neither have I had any sort of accident either despite spending the last twenty years of my working life commuting across the M62 daily on a 120 mile round trip !

    A speeding fine is not a tax ,simply because taxes are unavoidable and speeding fines are not. Just accept the fact that we have to put up with them and that's it !

    The third paragraph of your original post does seem very bitter to me and I wonder what prompted you to pour out so much vitriol ?
     
  8. Artimus

    Artimus Shortback

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    I, on the other hand, have had plenty of accidents and have previously had up to 9 points on my license! Not one person has been injured in any accident I've been involved with, whether my fault or not. I've heard of older motorists that have driven all their life without having an accident - but seen loads in their rear view mirror before! I'm not particularly impressed by the statement, it conjours up images of that Halfrauds advert with brown trousered Brian fixing his Mondeo.

    In my relatively short time here at ASN, one thing I've learned is this is not a one-size-fits-all forum! Opinions vary and there are those that refuse to say nice things just to keep the peace, Instead preferring to speak honestly! Seemingly bitter vitriol to some may be refreshingly honest to others! ..I respect that right to have an individual opinion much more than some posting in this topic & feel others should too, without resorting to labeling or attempts at belittling fellow members. I will not agree for the sake of agreement.

    MY HONEST OPINION is that most Mobile Speed Traps are woefully short on reason, except for when you actor in Revenue! I would estimate that only 10% of the accidents I've had have been directly related to excessive speed! The other 90% have been down to Distraction, Mechanical failure or Extreme road conditions, and all of those 90% were below the posted speed limit. Yes, Speed limits are there for a reason, but the reason isn't always to cut accident rates.
     
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  9. mike foster

    mike foster Fossie VCDS Map User

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    Well there you go ! You have expressed your opinion to the forum as you wished to do and so have I as I wished to do. People will be able to make their own minds up.

    Everybody happy and we agree to disagree !

    Simples !!!!!!!!
     
  10. MattyW19

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    I think they pay for the christmas pi** up. They are distracting and your focusing on not accidently going over the speedlimit.. which could cause a crash.

    Why did they turn off the speedcameras in a part of the UK? Yes police cars are required, but little petty vans and cameras which book you for going 32MPH in a 30..

    On a particular route, I have to drop from 60 MPH to 40MPH instantly with heavy traffic behind - I know they will put a mobile speed van there, so I do slow down - However, the amount of times I have nearly been rear ended is rediculous. Car's have got more advanced with their brakes etc, so in my opinion I think the speed limit is set too low.

    If speed cameras weren't money making, why don't they lift the fine? We can only have 6-12 points anyway.
     
  11. rOb_A

    rOb_A Active Member

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    not read this thread for a bit but having been banned for totting up (3 speeding offences & a red light :blush: ) i think i am worthy of an opinion. easily put, if you do the crime you do the time.
    i think we have to remember that these are laws, therefore put in place for the safety and welfare of us all.
    for those who think the fines are another tax or line the pockets of the police, easy... try and stay within the speed limits and keep your £££ in your pocket for you next car or mod. night night :happy:
     
  12. MrLapou

    MrLapou Well-Known Member

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    Here here, well put and said :applaus:
     
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    rOb_A Active Member

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    I thank you :hi:
     
  14. veeeight

    veeeight I am a very pretty girl VCDS Map User Black Edition

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    Unmarked S3 or RS3 (DSG) out in Manchester tonight !!

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  15. Sayam

    Sayam Well-Known Member VCDS Map User

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    The unmarked grey S3 in Manchester area is well known afaik
     
  16. WOLF

    WOLF I am WOLF.......

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    There is a solution here................Dont speed...........simples!:yes::laugh:
     
  17. T8DPR

    T8DPR If Carlsberg Made Audi Drivers...

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    imagine if you just didn't exceed the speed limit...
     
  18. WOLF

    WOLF I am WOLF.......

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    Then we'd have no speeding fines to worry about:whistle2:
     
  19. T8DPR

    T8DPR If Carlsberg Made Audi Drivers...

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    and no points, and know worries about insurance and definitely a damn site less accidents and less innocent people inconvenienced and/or injured
     
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  20. Artimus

    Artimus Shortback

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    If the Police's main aim is to deter, why do they need unmarked cars?

    just asking!
     
  21. Compkiler

    Compkiler Active Member

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    Laser jammers dude!
     
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  22. Sevv

    Sevv Pushing the limits..

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    petition it referencing your relevant laws... but use that template.. and tell them to go F*ck themselves.. its worked for me

    ''I received a letter claiming I committed a violation of a speeding law in the District of Columbia on 04/21/2012. As per the instructions, I am writing to plead ‘not guilty’ to this charge. Although this option is said to result in this matter going to court; it is my suggestion that the charges simply be dropped. This suggestion comes out of respect for tax payers, and my request that their hard earned money not be wasted in such proceedings. As there is no evidence of my involvement with this alleged ‘crime’, as well as the fact that I am not granted my 6th amendment right to face my ‘accuser’ (a camera); I see no way the government could prove my guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. I also see find no legal requirement for me to implicate someone else in this process, as it is the government’s responsibility to prove a person’s guilt. It is also my 5th amendment right to remain silent on the matter.

    If it is the government’s decision to move forward in this matter, I would request copies of any evidence the prosecution may have of my involvement in the “offense”; as well as, all maintenance records for the camera(s) involved.''
     
  23. T8DPR

    T8DPR If Carlsberg Made Audi Drivers...

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    If people stuck to the speed limits, no one would get fined, and no one would get the points, it really is THAT simple

    That's a council issue, not the police

    the police have different departments to handle different crimes, if every cop was used on a specific day to catch thieves, then another day to catch rapists, and so on, then on those days there'd be no one to scrape up the bodies off the carriageways. Roads policing units are specifically highly trained to deal with the things that go on our roads, the same way murder investigation teams are for the sake of catching killers, but in a way when people say why cant the police be doing better things, its almost like saying "where's the postman, I need my windows cleaning"
     

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