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Missing Radar detector thingy?

scrofts007 Dec 2, 2013

  1. glospete

    glospete Well-Known Member Team Ibis Team Glacier Audi A3 Audi TT

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    Thanks for that - now it's clear! But like so many other Audi features they do like to confuse (Pre-Sense Front = City Emergency Braking, but Pre-Sense Basic is entirely different). Bit like the Hold Assist and Hill Hold Assist, and Ultra as well. Arghh!
     
  2. The Challinor

    The Challinor Well-Known Member Regional Rep Audi S3

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    Pretty sure all S3's only have the dome sensor.
     
  3. glospete

    glospete Well-Known Member Team Ibis Team Glacier Audi A3 Audi TT

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    So can other MY15 S3 and A3 owners confirm that they do or don't have flat sensors?
     
  4. mls

    mls Member

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    My MY15 s3 has the dome
     
  5. The Challinor

    The Challinor Well-Known Member Regional Rep Audi S3

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    I asked my dealer via email what I will have as I'm not a fan of the flat. He said dome and that's a November delivery. It seems all S3's have dome, I'm sure there is some technical reason behind it such as bumper, other equipment added, etc, etc.
     
  6. phil1824

    phil1824 Active Member Team Daytona Audi A3 Audi Cabriolet Owner Group

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    My A3 S Line Cabriolet MY 15 has the flat one.
     
  7. glospete

    glospete Well-Known Member Team Ibis Team Glacier Audi A3 Audi TT

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    My car has arrived at Exeter Audi today and they sent me some photos of it coming off the transporter. And I do believe from this photo that it looks as though it has a dome radar sensor - and mine is a lowly 1.4TFSI. That seems to blow the theory that domes are only being fitted to S3 models - unless they have fitted an S3 engine in my car LOL. My car has the Driver Assistance Package and I wonder if that has anything to do with it?

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  8. veeeight

    veeeight I am a very pretty girl VCDS Map User Black Edition

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    It seems that if you have the driver assistance package, you get the dome sensor !
     
  9. glospete

    glospete Well-Known Member Team Ibis Team Glacier Audi A3 Audi TT

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    But I wonder why when the extended speed range up to 124mph has now been dropped from the DA description. Very odd!
     
  10. REB154

    REB154 Member Team Sepang quattro Audi S3

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    My new S3 that's just arrived at the dealer has a dome radar thingy. No assistance pack.
     
  11. Martinbanshee

    Martinbanshee Well-Known Member TeamMisano quattro Audi S3 saloon

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    Going by all the posts it looks like it's the A3s with driver assistance pack and all S3s that get the dome, all the rest get the flat sensor.
     
  12. glospete

    glospete Well-Known Member Team Ibis Team Glacier Audi A3 Audi TT

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    But i wonder whether there's a technical reason?
     
  13. cemerson

    cemerson Well-Known Member

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    It's done by date too. I have the dome, but no driver assistance pack (though I have all the components of it).
     
  14. The Challinor

    The Challinor Well-Known Member Regional Rep Audi S3

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    So you've got an A3 just with ACC then and nothing else?
     
  15. cemerson

    cemerson Well-Known Member

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    What? No - my spec is in my signature! I just don't have the driver assistance pack, but I have all the parts form it specced separately. The configurator wouldn't let you spec it with some other option I had at the time I ordered, for some reason.
     
  16. The Challinor

    The Challinor Well-Known Member Regional Rep Audi S3

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    Sorry I meant no other driving assist, etc not kit in general.

    Think yours is one of the only A3's ( with the white A3 above ) to have dome and not flat. Nothing concrete either way to say what dictates what you get as seems like the S3 theory is out now.

    Either way the dome looks a lot better.
     
  17. Martinbanshee

    Martinbanshee Well-Known Member TeamMisano quattro Audi S3 saloon

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    I'd be interested to see if the dome radar performs better in any way (range?), I suppose time will tell.
     
  18. constvoid

    constvoid Active Member TFSI Owners Group Team Scuba Audi A3

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    I have no driving aids (lane assist etc.) but have the dome - the dome was the only version fitted until some months ago. At the time the flat version started appearing someone in a thread here did some investigations and dscovered that the dome does indeed have increased range compared with the flat version. This would account for it being fitted where the driver assistance package is fitted, to allow for the higher speeds. I wasn't aware this had now been dropped from the DA description, but surely they wouldn't fit the dome unless it was needed, as presumably the flat one is cheaper (otherwise they'd fit the dome on all cars as single inventory would be less expensive than stocking both).
     
  19. cemerson

    cemerson Well-Known Member

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    There are plenty that were built around mine and before with the dome - like I said, the build date matters as well. The flat one was only introduced later.
     
  20. Martinbanshee

    Martinbanshee Well-Known Member TeamMisano quattro Audi S3 saloon

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    Yeah, they've obviously introduced the flat sensor after production began and the S3 and certain other cars still get the dome, but why does the S3 get the dome when the Drivers Assistance Package has not been selected? In this case surely you wouldn't need the extended range of the dome.
     
  21. The Challinor

    The Challinor Well-Known Member Regional Rep Audi S3

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    Good question, long shot but maybe something to do with speed of acceleration and braking power in the S3 OR maybe because it has a different front bumper, etc.
     
  22. constvoid

    constvoid Active Member TFSI Owners Group Team Scuba Audi A3

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    It's probably a prestige thing.
     
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  23. Bristle Hound

    Bristle Hound Supercharged Moderator Staff Member Moderator Audi S4

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    Has anyone been able to come up with a definitive answer about the flat v dome sensor for ACC then? :think:

    Reading this post, there still seems some confusion on the matter

    This issue doesn't effect me because I havent spec'ed ACC, but just thinking of other members who have :thumbs up:
     
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  24. veeeight

    veeeight I am a very pretty girl VCDS Map User Black Edition

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    No, would still love to know which cars have flat sensors and which cars have dome sensors
     
  25. The Challinor

    The Challinor Well-Known Member Regional Rep Audi S3

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    Even on my Mac your signature isn't that big.
     
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  26. glospete

    glospete Well-Known Member Team Ibis Team Glacier Audi A3 Audi TT

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    I thought that this had been resolved. For current cars I think that the dome version is fitted to all S3s that have ACC. It is also fitted to other versions where the Driver Assistance Pack has been optioned. Any others get the flat version. Quite why I have no idea!
     
  27. Minion Bob!

    Minion Bob! Active Member Audi A3

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    Has anyone taken delivery in the past few weeks and have we managed to confirm our assumptions yet?
     
  28. kxt79

    kxt79 Member

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    I'm getting mine this week. Not a s3 so will let you know If flat or dome
     
  29. Minion Bob!

    Minion Bob! Active Member Audi A3

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    Awesome @kxt79 ! Sure your glad the wait is almost over, mind if I ask what spec you got?
     
  30. kxt79

    kxt79 Member

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    Yes can't wait now for it to arrive! So I think I am very in the monority here with my choice but here's what I went for

    1.4. cod SB Stronic
    Sport trim
    Xenon light package
    Comfort pack
    Folding Mirrors
    Privacy glass
    ACC
    Monsoon grey.
     
  31. Minion Bob!

    Minion Bob! Active Member Audi A3

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    NIce! What made you go for the xenon light package and not an sline? I've bought a sport trim sb too... seems we're very much in the minority hey (Spec on my signature but I've actually replaced park plus with ACC - forgot to update that). Whens the pick up ? :) Did ya have a long week... I'm two weeks down... 9 to go :'(
     
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  32. kxt79

    kxt79 Member

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    Well when I priced the s-line up you still have to pay extra for the interior lighting pack and the cornering lights - so ended up quite a few pounds more. So I decided for me the sport with a bit more spec was a better option for me personally. I won't lie I've agonised over it thought!! Mines been about 10 Weeks so not to bad! Any nerves on your spec or do you think you will leave it as is?
     
  33. Minion Bob!

    Minion Bob! Active Member Audi A3

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    Know the feeling I did the same but in the end it came down to monthly budget for me, would love the s line though. Nerves! LOL already changed it 4 times, my dealer is probably ready to kill me! :audibash:

    Although my dealer hasn't managed to put my last change (ACC) on as orders were locked this week for MY16 changes, So slightly worried that my order might get locked before he makes the change! :(! Also suddenly contemplating switching from a SB to a 3dr... :05.18 flustered:
     
  34. amped2

    amped2 Active Member quattro Audi A3 Audi Cabriolet Owner Group TDi

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    picked ours up yesterday my15 with ACC and no other assistance packages and its a flat sensor,its a s-line cab
     
  35. Abrown

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    I have spoken to Audi UK on the phone and they have told me that both the Dome and the square plate are just for ACC. The dome is the older version and the square plate is the new version...

    I prefer the old version!
     
  36. veeeight

    veeeight I am a very pretty girl VCDS Map User Black Edition

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    ^ It's not quite as simplistic as that, they are 2 different sensors with different specs and ranges.

    It used to be that the dome was fitted if you had ACC High (no longer offered) and/or some DA options, and the square plate was fitted with ACC low or some other combo, except if you have a S3 in which case you always get the dome version (or some permutation like that).
     
  37. drummerdimitri

    drummerdimitri Active Member

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    So it's safe to assume that all S3's with ACC come with the domed radar instead of the flat one even if DA pack is not specified?

    Here's my theory: Even if an S3 doesn't have DA pack so ACC is limited to 150 km/h it still detects cars 240 m away instead of 160 m for the sake of safety since it is a much faster car than an A3.

    Does that make any sense?
     
  38. Minion Bob!

    Minion Bob! Active Member Audi A3

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    Seems to be a good working theory that I'm willing to settle on. Still like the look of the dome tbf :(
     
  39. glospete

    glospete Well-Known Member Team Ibis Team Glacier Audi A3 Audi TT

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    what engine have you ordered (not relevant to the ACC radar though!)
     
  40. Minion Bob!

    Minion Bob! Active Member Audi A3

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    Ordered the 1.4 TFSI , what makes you ask @glospete ? :)
     

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