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Longlife oil change Vs "Segment 2" oil change...

Discussion in 'A3/S3/Sportback (8P Chassis)' started by Ads, Nov 22, 2011.

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    [Nov 22, 2011]
    My car is due a service, or basically, an oil change.
    I've been quoted the following:

    Independent VAG specialist - £155 using longlife oil.

    Audi - £149 for a "segment 2" oil change (seen here under Affordable servicing, Interim Service --> Affordable servicing < Servicing with Audi < Owners area < Audi UK)

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    - £238 using longlife oil.

    What oil is actually used by Audi when doing a segment 2 oil change?
    And is it better to use the longlife oil?
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    [Nov 22, 2011]
    This is the invoice I got on my £149 service, says SYNTA5LT[​IMG]
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    [Nov 22, 2011]
    Thanks a lot for that mate.

    Looked it up and going by your invoice the oil used is Quantum Synta Semi-synthetic 10w40.
    Never heard of it.

    Anyone??
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    [Nov 22, 2011]
    that got me thinking, I don't want **** oil in my car! found this...

    Engine Oils - Quantum (these are made by Castrol for Volkswagen Group UK):
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    Yeah I saw that too.
    Also, are you going to know which oil to use if you need to top up??
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    [Nov 22, 2011]
    I used to use Synta Silver in my old 16v engines (Mk2 Golf).

    I thought the new engines needed a 5w30, not a 10w40?

    I can never make out whether they make a science out of oil to be bloody awkward and keep charges up, or whether long life oil is worse for your car with longer service intervals (esp. on modded cars). I used to change every 5k until oil got to £80 a pot.

    As long as its got the right VW rating (the 500 numbers), then surely it will be OK as an interim.
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    I losing the will to live, if i'm honest. Think I'm just going to pay the indie £155 to use longlife oil.
    My last service was a full longlife variable service, but my car must've been set to fixed interval because 4k miles later and a year to the day it is telling me it wants pampering again.
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    [Nov 22, 2011]
    You sure that's right? Different part number....
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    [Nov 22, 2011]
    Sorry your right that was the wrong link

    Quantum Synta, 10w40, VW 500.00/505.00, ACEA: A3/B3, API SL/CF; (semi-synthetic)
    ZGB 115 QLB 004 05 - 1 lit
    ZGB 115 QLB 004 06 - 5 lit
    ZGB 115 QLB 040 7L - 20 lit
    ZGB 115 QLB 004 08 - 208 lit

    This would be the correct one going on the part number on my invoice, but then that site says don't use on PD engines??? Very odd

    http://www.vwspares.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=1137
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    [Nov 22, 2011]
    It's SO cheap as well. £13.50 +vat for 5 litres!!
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    [Nov 22, 2011]
    I've just bought some Mobil 1 ESP fully synthetic for my car along with a new oil filter (under £60 delivered), but it's not 5W-40, it's 5W-30 as recommended for the 8P S3 on the Opie Oils website. As my car is modded, I want to change every 6K miles, but do you guys think the oil I've bought will be OK? Just want to make sure before I get the oil change done :uhm:. Thanks in advance :wub: x
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    Im also thinking of an oil change and have been looking into the mobil 1 oil for my S3, i only want to use the best but is there any benefit of using a premium oil over the audi oem stuff?
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    [Nov 22, 2011]
    Mobil 1 ESP meets the latest VW/Audi specification for petrol engines which is VW 504 00

    The oil you have ordered is more than ok
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    I would also like to jump in on this thread if i may.. My S3 just got a new engine and i've now done the usual 1000 mile run in.. In fact i've done just over that but when the engine was put in it went on a long life service plan. I want to take it off of that and do fixed intervals, probably every 6-8 months for an oil change. What''s the best oil to use?
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    [Nov 23, 2011]
    Hi. You might want to go to Audi and get that oil changed for Quatum Platinum, or Longlife III if you have a DPF, if they have actually filled your car with Synta. They should do this FOC if they have used Synta.
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    [Nov 23, 2011]
    Thanks, you've reminded me? I'll send Audi an email. When I saw the website say don't use in PD engines I thought it was a bit odd!
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    strange that my turbo starts to go after the oil change....

    Haven't got a hope in hell pinning that on Audi! lol
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    That's excellent, Cloughy. Thanks for that! :wub: x
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    [Nov 23, 2011]
    If you took it to Audi I would imagine they would use the platinum stuff on fixed servicing, it meets the latest spec

    http://www.vwspares.co.uk/quantum_oils.php
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    [Nov 23, 2011]
    fully synthetic oil is the best for modern engines (they resist oxidation at higher temps so lubricate for longer)

    mine has just hit 19k miles after 2 years and DIS is telling me i have 5 days or 400miles to next service/oil change. quoted £130 at an audi specialist for fully synthetic plus £50 for aircon service. i will top up the other fluids at my own expense

    considering im paying around £200 every 2 years for service, £20/yr tax and im getting around 50mpg in city driving, my 1.6tdi has been a cheap car to run :)
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