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location of 409 relay am i in the right place

Discussion in 'A3/S3 Forum (8L Chassis)' started by islay, Oct 23, 2013.

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    [Oct 23, 2013]
    hi guys i have a 99 1.8t agu i have had a few issue's recently and i thought it might be the fuel pump relay on its road out , bought on and opened up the panel underneath the steering wheel expecting to just swap over the 409 but there is no 409 there am i in the right place.? there is a spare location in between 100 and 167i will try and include a pic with this,
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    [Oct 23, 2013]
    I can find out tomorrow mate when I'm at work buddy
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    [Oct 23, 2013]
    cheers lee that would be magic just wondering if there was a diagram anywhere that would say what relay's should be where
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    [Oct 23, 2013]
    Are you sure 167 isn't the fuel pump relay bud that's its normal location I'm sure
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    [Oct 23, 2013]
    just been on vagcat lee it says 167 is the "[TABLE="width: 100%"]

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    [TD="bgcolor: #E1E1E1"]contact close relay / for fuel pump / relay location/code no.: / F >> 8L-W-999 000*
    4/167 /[/TD]
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    but it also says 409 is the "[TABLE="width: 100%"]

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    [TD="bgcolor: #D7DBD3"]relay for fuel pump / relay location/code no.: / F 8L-X-000 001>>
    4/409 /[/TD]
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    is there a difference between the "relay for the fuel pump" and the "contact close relay/for fuel pump" or should i have both?
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    [Oct 23, 2013]
    I think you will have one or the other mate tbh I will double check this tomorrow for you buddy
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    [Oct 23, 2013]
    cheers lee maybe ive bought the wrong one do you think i could replace the 167 with a 409 if it fits?
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    Don't think so bud il get on to tps as well tomorrow bud
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    [Oct 23, 2013]
    Isn't 409 in the engine bay?
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    [Oct 24, 2013]
    Most of the agu's have relay 167 instead of 409 number relay mate.
    167 is the fuel pump relay of a golf. I replaced that relay with a new one when I had fuel pump problems and it sorted it. 167 and 409 are the same relay
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    [Oct 24, 2013]
    I can also confirm 167 is the fuel pump relay mate
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    [Oct 24, 2013]
    thanks guys i phoned audi and they said that it should be a 409 for my chassis number but the 409 seems to have more connectors on it will it be ok to put a 409 in? as thats the one i have
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    [Oct 24, 2013]
    right guys just an update as it might help someone else i have changed the 167 for the 409 and took it for a spin , going alot better now so finger's crossed only time will tell i think ,i'll put in an update in a week
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    Glad to hear it mate
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    [Nov 26, 2013]
    Hi guys, my car cut out the other day. Won't start now, its an '01 S3. I suspect its the Fuel Pump Relay as the fuel pump cannot be heard priming when ignition is turned on. When i removed the lower dash trim today i found the exact same positioning of the relays as the pictures above. So far this thread has answered a few of my questions (THANK YOU) as i had also expected to see a 409 relay, where the 167 currently sits. Could somebody just confirm for me, should my car have a 409 and should I go and get that part, replace it and then see what happens? its only a $30 part so cheap enough. Thanks in advance
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