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Limp Mode & Sat Nav Plus

Discussion in 'A4/A4 cabriolet/S4 forum(B6 chassis)' started by cptk, Nov 4, 2009.

  1. cptk

    cptk New Member

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    Now where do I begin? I own a 2002 A4 1.9TDI 130BHP Saloon; unfortunately I have had a lot of problems, firstly with the car going into Limp Mode. For the past 5 months I have been trying without success to rectify the faults.
    Limp Mode: The car develops loss of power; this is very intermittent and can only be cleared by turning off the ignition very quickly (to avoid the steering lock from engaging) this clears the problem for a while, but then it comes back as before.
    I had the car tested at Audi, they did not give me the access codes, only suggesting for me to let them have the car for a couple of day, yeh right not at £170 per hour...
    A friend used his hand held device and a couple of codes showed up. After talking with other Audi A4 owners it was suggested that I replace the EGR, and the MAF sensor, this it was suggested can cause problems with the Turbo performance. However I still have the faults.
    I have now made the decision to take it to a garage that uses VAG-COM; he said that it will show up any problems, incidentally my friends hand held unit at the moment shows no fault codes.
    I have checked all of the hoses to make sure that there is not an air leak, and a mechanic looked at the turbo and that appears to be ok as well. I’m now at a loss...
    Sat Nav Plus: after getting the unit re-coded (due to replacing the battery and loosing the radio code) the sat nav does not work properly, plus I have lost the sat nav voice instruction, as well as the unit is not sending through audio signal through to the front speakers, I know that the front speakers are working and connected correctly because when I go into the menu and change the phone settings, the front speakers come to life for a split second, I’ve double checked the wiring to see if it’s all pushed in and nothing has been squashed, as I do not have the manual I do not know if there is any additional setting up, I have been through all of the settings but no luck...

    Please can anyone help or does anyone know where I can download the instruction manual for the Sat Nav... Any help would be greatly appreciated as I’m about to push the car of a cliff, :banghead: lol
     
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  3. markyzs180

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    Lip mode - good try with the maf/egr route but i think you'd have been better off having it vag-com'd first (sorry!) but it will show any sensor faults etc....

    sat nav - sounds as though when the unit was 're-coded' it has lost all of its specific settings to your car so you will need to find someone wiht vag-com and the knowledge of how to code the nav back to your car
     
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    I see you are in Essex - I have the RNS-E manual in "pdf" form, (but 14MB so email could be a long time). I have VAG-COM (VCDS fully licensed version) and RNS-E coding experience!!!!
    PM me :meeting:
     
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    TBH what did the guy do to check the turbo mate as just spinning the impeller round isnt a good test of its functions, ideally pressure testing & see if vagcom is showing any overboost/underboost conditions as the underboost would be a leak possibly & overboost could be several things, N75 valve buggered, wastegate not working properly, turbo with sticking vanes etc
     
  6. cptk

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    Thanks guys for your suggestions, yes I would have been better off getting it checked on VAG-COM, still I suppose you learn the expensive way. Regarding the turbo I believe the mechanic just did basic checks, not any pressure tests. Thanks again for all of your advice; I will let you know what codes show up. I’ll PM you (woorlord) :thumbsup:
     
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    A 2002 B6 will have an RNS-D (CD based) and not an RNS-E (DVD based) sat nav if it was factory fitted - stupidly Audi call them both "Sat Nav Plus"!

    So an RNS-E manual may be useless to you...
     
  8. BILKO1

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    I had the same problem on my old B5 1.9tdi the fault codes i got were
    00519 MAP Sensor - Out of Range -G71
    00553 Mass Air Flow Sensor -G70
    00575 Manifold Absolute Pressure Sensor

    I had replaced all vacuum hoses and n75 valve and the fault still occurred but like you cycling the ignition quickly restored full power. The fault was cured by fitting a new turbo as the vanes were sticking causing an overboost situation. The car had done 178000 miles and the turbo was the original so couldn't complain:)

    Drive your car up a slight incline in 3rd gear then floor it if it goes limp home almost straight away your turbo is overboosting. Before you change the turbo you need all hoses checked for leaks and n75 valve operation checking as well as map and maf sensors, good luck.
     
  9. cptk

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    Thanks BILKO1, I should know by this Saturday what fault codes show up. I tried your suggestion of selecting 3rd gear, up a slight incline, then flooring it; however I could not induce the car going into Limp Mode. It seems to happen more when I take the car on longer runs. Regarding the N75 valve, does this relate to the small unit that has 2 small hoses (in and out) with a solenoid and an electrical connection?
    I also fear that my problem could be the turbo veins, if this is the problem is it worth stripping down the unit and reconditioning it?? :uhm:
    Thanks, Karl
     
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    Tbh mate if you're capable to take it of the car you're more than capable to strip it down & clean it up so the vanes are more free, when mine went I took apart & saw what the problem was most likely, just be careful with the impeller shaft & wheel, any minute bends could spell disaster

    & yes N75 would be a solenoid with the pipes & power, as this effects the wastegate then something to consider swapping out, hell of alot cheaper & easier to do that to test anyway than the turbo.
     

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