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Discussion in 'A3/S3 Forum (8L Chassis)' started by Lee172, Oct 16, 2011.

  1. Paradox1
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    well the wiring to my head unit is buggered. all the wires have come out the input ports and won't go back in so I may take this time to strip it out again,take out the massive sub along with the back seats etc. what else can be removed without going ott on a daily?
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    Does anyone know of a figure that someone has got an s3 down to because I have searched and searched and never come up with anything conclusive??

    I know it's been discussed before (think on prawns thread??) but never heard of actual proven figures? ;)
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    nows your time to find out stacey :icon_thumright:
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    Don is the don when it comes to stripping
    His car is proper light
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    Thats along the same sort of lines as what im thinking of doing to mine, did you notice a difference?

    What else can be taken from an s3 without not being able to go back?

    I would be interested to find this out as well. I know Don had removed 140kgs from his 1.8TQS. He removed pretty much everything from inside the car.

    I have a weigh bridge at work so i may have to see how much my car actually weighs and then see how much i can take out of it without going to the point of no return.

    Has anyone got lightweight wheels on their car? i wonder if that makes alot of difference.

    I read an article about a car in america that a magazine had for a day. They had to make it go faster down the strip without spending any money, so they stripped the hell out of it and knocked 2 seconds off the 1/4 mile time.
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    Would need to remove the seats and swap them for lightweight buckets... S3 recaros weigh loads... was surprised when I had the rear seat backs out how heavy they are...

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    I removed my rear seats for the Nurburgring trip and that was noticable, so the front seats will weigh a ton. Especially if they are heated ones.
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    lightweight wheels do make a difference.less weight at the wheels would mean less weight to steer if you know what I mean. I guess if you wanted to find out how much weight you can shed from an s3 would be to subtract the weight of the parts you want to remove,ie, rear seats -35kg subwoofer -30kg, spare wheel ,parcel shelf,carpet.

    this way you can get an estimate if what it will weigh.how much does the s3 weigh standard?
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    They're all different depending on optional extras. Weight is in the front page of the service book and on the sticker under the carpet in the boot but they are around the 1500-1600 mark. mine is 1464kg unladen weight (no fluids).
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    Fit a bigger turbo.... simples...

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    Great for moving weight in a straight line. Not really going to help round the bends though :racer:
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    Bigger brakes and a bigger turbo then ;P

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    once you strip out the car,I've been told its a good idea to get the suspension alligned so that the weight of the car is distributed equally on the car?
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    Your thinking of corner weighting, and its worth doing with any car for maximum handling, but requires coilovers, and will often result in uneven ride heights round the car.
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    electric seats will weigh a shed load..
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    Not sure what wheels you have Lee but I weighed the standard S3 Avus rims recently with no tyres on them and they were 12kg each!
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    What about removing all the sound deadening under the carpets and side panels?
    You might need to spray some rust proofing after though.
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    I have rs4 rims which pprobably weigh more, im finding it hard to find any lightweight wheels that actually look good though.
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    I think OZ do a nice range of lightweight wheels but they're not particularly cheap.
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    Naaaaa, just the bigger turbo...
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    How's it going? What are the plans afoot another trip to bills? ;)
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    Not bad mate, im holding off on the stripping for a while and hopefully getting another block to bore out/play about with through my work. Ive been talking to pat today about the kit he brought to go 2.0t. Its going in next week to bills for some mapping. Hows your car going? Any future plans?
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    It's going ok mate having the downpipe rectified as we speak but besides that been ok, am trying to get my egts down at the mo and WMi has been a complete arse but am slowly getting there, will be turning the boost down a touch more to keep this in check?

    I have recently realised that they do all of the garrett gt and gtx series (up to the 35) with a k26 turbine housing so have been eyeing a few things up although the limitations will be trying to fit it in it's current location ;-)
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    How comes you want the egts to come down? They were ok when i saw you at bills werent they?
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    Yeah it's ok if you only give it a squirt every now and then but it was just hitting egt protection on the dyno but with prolonged thrashing it is in the protection zone a lot of the time and my mpg is rediculous (which I know is generally my fault) :)

    I have seen egts as high as 995 but that was at a stupid speed on a private road of coarse, got to admit bill did say the limitation of my setup is the hotside of the turbo and has currently been mapped to 1.45-1.5 bar but am probably going to bring it down a touch as am planning on using it on a couple of track days this year and would rather a bit less power but it consistant as can really feel it killing power when it gets really hot.....might explain why it's flaming all of the time when it's been taken for a spirited drive ;-)
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    *spiritied* drive..... lol

    given how hot your turbo runs... I would aim for no more than a bar of boost if you are tracking it... and still keep a beady eye on its egts
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    Ok maybe spirited was an understatement thrashed to an inch of its life most days is probably nearer the truth :whistle2:
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    Would the wmi not help the egts? How much do you use? Its taken me 800 miles to use one tank. Maybe i should use a bigger jeet?
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    I was going through one tank of meth to a tank of petrol (200 miles) but that was with a faulty check valve, am waiting on a new valve to arrive from aem and then will see what its like?
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    Forgot to say what's the aim of the further mapping you gonna try and dial in a bit more boost ;)
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    I was using an obscene amount of water when I had the leaky check valve. Since i've been testing it again with a decent valve and smallest jet it's hardly using anything.
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    what EMI kit are you running?did you install it yourself ans how reliable are they? ta
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    I think me, Lee, and Stacey all have AEM progressive kits. I know Stacey fitted his own and I fitted mine myself but i'm having a few wiring issues.

    I was testing on Monday night and even at half load on the pump I was getting intake temps of 9 degrees with the ambient temp being 4 degrees and I was only running water!

    The WMI allows you to run more ignition timing and therefore more power. I think they are very reliable when working correctly ;)
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    cheers mate how much are they,I may need to invest lol
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    Is it ok to run it on just water? Since mine ran out i pulled the fuse on the pump.
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    Yeah can't see why not mate ;)
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    as far as I know loads of people run it on just deionised water. think its available at halfords
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    water is fine yea, but the meth is what allows the additional timing..... so running a car tuned for wmi and allowing it to run out is not good. It could be pulling too much timing
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    This is why i suggest you never have the car specifically mapped for it.

    You'll still gain running WMI without the car being mapped specifically for it, but when (not if) the system fails your engines still in a safe state.
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    I'm currently only running water due to not having a fully working kit yet. I can add/remove ignition timing using uni settings myself once the car and kit if sorted.

    The cooling effects just from water are pretty impressive anyway. I got AIT's of 5 degrees above ambient on Monday night and that was only on half pump ;)

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