[ QUOTE ] Bowfer - you going to buy a bimmer next then? [/ QUOTE ] Nope,I have a (very) shortlist and it's not on it. A4 Avant 2.0tdi quattro S-line Alfa 159 Golf Gti All manual. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif The A4 is the boring option,but quattro would be handy in the snow. The Gti is the fastest option. The Alfa 159 is the beautiful option,inside and out.