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Key Coding with VCDS Report , Expert Required!!

Discussion in 'A3/S3/Sportback (8P Chassis)' started by Blacky165, Sep 19, 2012.

  1. Blacky165
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    [Sep 19, 2012]
    2005 8P A3 2.0L TDI

    I've been trying without luck to solve my remote key locking issue. I've had several door lock components replaced which has completed solved the manual opening/closing procedure (new lock cylinder & door lock module).

    However the remote locking is still a mystery. I've bought a full copy of VCDS and and attempted to follow the remote coding procedure. The car appears to learn both remotes by flashing the indicators when the lock button is pressed during the key adapation in central convenience (good sign!), but once you exit VCDS the remotes seem to forget everything. Please note the immobiliser works perfectly on both keys, and the batteries are new and have been tested.

    I'm still new to VCDS and haven't ventured beyond the autoscan and key adapatations yet - can anyone help?

    Below is my autoscan report, perhaps this will help. Surprsied to see so many radio faults, but presume this is because I've installed a bluetooth parrot. I've also tried clearing the fault codes and retrying the VCDS key learning procedure - no luck.


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    Chassis Type: 1K0
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 47 52 56 7D
    VIN: WAUZZZ8P16A028022 Mileage: 154870km/96231miles
    00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
    01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 1010
    7D-Aux. Heat -- Status: OK 0000

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine Labels: 03G-906-016-BKD.lbl
    Part No SW: 03G 906 016 DT HW: 028 101 189 2
    Component: R4 2,0L EDC 0000AG 7000
    Revision: 12345678 Serial number: AUX7Z0E5FNS0BG
    Coding: 0000078
    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
    VCID: 78F599440BC854E
    4 Faults Found:
    17055 - Cylinder 1 Glow Plug Circuit (Q10)
    P0671 - 000 - Electrical Fault
    Freeze Frame:
    RPM: 1008 /min
    Torque: 68.0 Nm
    Speed: 0.0 km/h
    Load: 0.0 %
    Voltage: 14.06 V
    Bin. Bits: 11000100
    Temperature: 15.3°C
    Bin. Bits: 10110000
    17056 - Cylinder 2 Glow Plug Circuit (Q11)
    P0672 - 000 - Electrical Fault
    Freeze Frame:
    RPM: 1008 /min
    Torque: 68.0 Nm
    Speed: 0.0 km/h
    Load: 0.0 %
    Voltage: 14.06 V
    Bin. Bits: 11000100
    Temperature: 15.3°C
    Bin. Bits: 10110000
    17057 - Cylinder 3 Glow Plug Circuit (Q12)
    P0673 - 000 - Electrical Fault
    Freeze Frame:
    RPM: 1008 /min
    Torque: 68.0 Nm
    Speed: 0.0 km/h
    Load: 0.0 %
    Voltage: 14.06 V
    Bin. Bits: 11000100
    Temperature: 15.3°C
    Bin. Bits: 10110000
    17058 - Cylinder 4 Glow Plug Circuit (Q13)
    P0674 - 000 - Electrical Fault
    Freeze Frame:
    RPM: 1008 /min
    Torque: 68.0 Nm
    Speed: 0.0 km/h
    Load: 0.0 %
    Voltage: 14.06 V
    Bin. Bits: 11000100
    Temperature: 15.3°C
    Bin. Bits: 10110000
    Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 02E-300-0xx.lbl
    Part No SW: 02E 300 042 S HW: 02E 927 770 AE
    Component: GSG DSG 082 1102
    Revision: 04808020 Serial number: 00000804120194
    Coding: 0000020
    Shop #: WSC 44551 111 44551
    VCID: 234F9E28E2CEE76
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
    Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 Q HW: 1K0 907 379 Q
    Component: ESP FRONT MK60 0102
    Revision: 00T12001
    Coding: 0021122
    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
    VCID: 408531A41398DCE
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 8P0-820-043.lbl
    Part No SW: 8P0 820 043 H HW: 8P0 820 043 H
    Component: KlimavollautomatH16 0200
    Revision: 208348 Serial number: 8P0820043H
    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
    VCID: 31636460A832456
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 8P0-907-279-23-H.lbl
    Part No SW: 8P0 907 279 F HW: 8P0 907 279 F
    Component: Bordnetz-SG H36 1201
    Revision: 00H36000 Serial number: 00000002044373
    Coding: 01884F06A214100000000000000000000008FE175C0100
    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 08192
    VCID: 408531A41398DCE
    Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8P2 955 119 B Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
    Component: Wischer AU350 H01 0130
    Coding: 00062736
    Shop #: WSC 06314
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags Labels: 8P0-959-655-94.lbl
    Part No SW: 8P0 959 655 H HW: 8P0 959 655 H
    Component: Airbag 9.41 H11 3520
    Revision: 91H1135 Serial number: 0037W000B10B
    Coding: 0071612
    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
    VCID: 47972AB836B6EB6
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 8P0-953-549.lbl
    Part No SW: 8P0 953 549 E HW: 8P0 953 549 E
    Component: Lenksäulenmodul H34 0070
    Coding: 0011112
    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
    VCID: 408531A41398DCE
    Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
    Component: Lenkradmodul H03 0080
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments Labels: 8P0-920-xxx-17-MY7.lbl
    Part No SW: 8P0 920 981 B HW: 8P0 920 981 B
    Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H80 0410
    Revision: D03 Serial number: 2245ED03001571
    Coding: 0000413
    Shop #: WSC 00164 210 82222
    VCID: 37775A7846569B6
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 1K0-907-530.lbl
    Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 F HW: 1K0 907 951
    Component: Gateway H10 0120
    Revision: H10 Serial number: 28001056198B05
    Coding: 3F0F0B42070101
    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
    VCID: 2A51730C85E436E
    1 Fault Found:
    01304 - Radio
    004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00100100
    Fault Priority: 2
    Fault Frequency: 22
    Reset counter: 221
    Mileage: 153485 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2012.08.14
    Time: 19:11:03

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
    Part No SW: 8P0 920 981 B HW: 8P0 920 981 B
    Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H80 0410
    Revision: D03 Serial number: AUX7Z0E5FNS0BG
    Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
    VCID: 37775A7846569B6
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 8P0-959-801-MIN2.lbl
    Part No: 8P0 959 801 H
    Component: Tuer-SG 020 0070
    Coding: 0000560
    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
    VCID: 408531A41398DCE
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
    Part No: 1K2 909 144 J
    Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.5 D04 1606
    Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
    VCID: 336F6E68522E776
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 8P0-959-433.lbl
    Part No: 8P0 959 433
    Component: KSG H03 0040
    Coding: 198000186D288505489AC63300
    Shop #: WSC 00046 046 52295
    VCID: F9F31C40B0C2CD6
    Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
    Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H03 1301
    Part No: 1K0 907 719 C
    Component: Neigungssensor 005 0003
    Part No: 8P0 951 177
    Component: Innenraumueberw.H03 0020
    1 Fault Found:
    01179 - Incorrect Key Programming
    000 - -
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 47: Sound System Labels: 8Px-035-382.lbl
    Part No SW: 8P3 035 382 HW: 8P3 035 382
    Component: AB2 SUBWOOFERBOXH25 0160
    Revision: 00003 Serial number: 10000001264844
    Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
    VCID: F0E52164E3B88CE
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: 8P0-959-802-MIN2.lbl
    Part No: 8P0 959 802 H
    Component: Tuer-SG 020 0070
    Coding: 0000560
    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
    VCID: 418334A01892D56
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio Labels: 8P0-035-1xx-56.lbl
    Part No SW: 8P0 035 186 C HW: 8P0 035 186 C
    Component: concert II EU H52 0100
    Revision: 02S Serial number: AUZ2Z3E2585089
    Coding: 0001001
    Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000
    VCID: 32616B6CAD347EE
    5 Faults Found:
    01305 - Databus for Infotainment
    004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00100100
    Fault Priority: 5
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 213
    01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285)
    004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00100100
    Fault Priority: 5
    Fault Frequency: 3
    Reset counter: 213
    Freeze Frame:
    Bin. Bits: 10
    01299 - Diagnostic Interface for Data Bus (J533)
    004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00100100
    Fault Priority: 5
    Fault Frequency: 3
    Reset counter: 213
    00852 - Loudspeaker(s); Front
    011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00101011
    Fault Priority: 5
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 207
    Mileage: 154439 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2012.09.06
    Time: 20:02:05
    00858 - Connection; Radio ZF Output to Antenna Amplifier
    011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00101011
    Fault Priority: 5
    Fault Frequency: 254
    Reset counter: 184
    Mileage: 134196 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2010.12.04
    Time: 14:52:49

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 7D: Aux. Heat Labels: 1K0-963-235.lbl
    Part No SW: 1K0 963 235 E HW: 1K0 963 235 E
    Component: PTC-Element 0404
    Revision: 00800000 Serial number:
    Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
    VCID: 2D5B7810B40A216
    No fault code found.
    End ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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    [Sep 19, 2012]
    Have you tried synchronizing the keys as per car manual?
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    [Sep 19, 2012]
    Thanks for the relpy. Yeah i've tried the method it mentions in the hand book, and also another method I found online - neither work.
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    [Sep 19, 2012]
    I've had this problem before was a dud remote, if you have a rectangular shaped key you can get a new one for around £50 from Audi
    but if yours is the later triangularish shaped key you have to buy a complete key which would need to be matched to immobiliser
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    [Sep 19, 2012]
    Typical - mine is the triangle shaped fob. I read somewhere that you can remove the immobiliser from the fob and transplant it in a new eBay key so long as the transponder/freqency matches the original key. Then just switch the key blade.

    Might look into this if I can find an online guide.
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    [Sep 19, 2012]
    No its soldered into the PCB and is fecking tiny
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    [Sep 19, 2012]
    Think I'll avoid that then.

    Can't believe both remotes are duds even though they correctly communicate with the car by making the indicators work by pressing the lock button during the resync procedure.
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    [Sep 19, 2012]
    Just popped the remote open - the immobiliser is separate, making it very easy to replace the pcb and recode with vcds hopefully.

    Now to get onto eBay and start bidding for a new fob!
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    [Sep 25, 2012]
    It's fixed!! If anyone is having remote locking problems with the above symptoms the solution is VERY simple.

    It appears that both my triangular remotes had died, so I ordered a new fob from eBay (£20) and made sure to match the MHz (434) and the serial number which was 8P0837220. Then I transferred my blade key and immobiliser chip into the new fob. Very easy to do as the immo chip is totally separate from the circuit board and works independently (looks like a long grain of rice if you're not sure).

    Then fire up VCDS, perform the key recode procedure and hey presto it works!

    Thanks to all the above for helping me fix this problem.
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    [Sep 25, 2012]
    Just be careful with the immobiliser chip because it's glass and you could break it when changing over.
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    [Sep 28, 2012]
    Also using a fake/counterfeit/clone cable, without vcds you wouldnt be anywhere near sorted, it maybe well to remember this & the developement that went into to enable these faults to be resolved.
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