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Discussion in 'A3/S3 Forum (8L Chassis)' started by AndybS3, Jul 12, 2004.

  1. AndybS3
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    Can anyone tell me if the A3 filter is the same as the S3?
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    The filter should be the same.

    The lower half of the airbox is identical, but the upper half where the MAF is located is different.
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    Does the K&N Panel filter have any positive differences over the factory fit audi S3 ones? Noise/performance (however minimal).Have heard various conflicting stories about them.

    Cheers

    Anthony
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    Should get better throttle response!! However the downside is the oiled filters - which tend to mess up the MAF
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    Which panel filters are not oiled?
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    Which panel filters are not oiled?

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    The OE paper one /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
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    Other then the OE one!
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    I've been running a K&N panel filter for a few months now and have had no problems.
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    Imola S3 said:
    I've been running a K&N panel filter for a few months now and have had no problems.


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    is it worth putting one in or stick with the standard one?

    cheers tony
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    Can you justify spending £45 on an air filter?

    It doesn't give you any real power gains, but you do feel a slight difference, hard to describe but it does feel less restricted than the OE paper filter. Weighing it up, it probably isn't worth it if you are looking for the best bang for your buck.

    On the other hand, if you like hearing your turbo spooling up, and you like to hear the DV, then yes, go for it.

    Would I buy another one... yes I would!
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    S3 Mike said:
    The filter should be the same.

    The lower half of the airbox is identical, but the upper half where the MAF is located is different.

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    Cheers Mike, Euro Car Parts are doing the panel filter for £30ish for all models of A3 but Edinburgh say it wont fit the S3 and Glasgow say it will so is there anyone can verify for defo that these are the same (part no 508-44-0021)
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    There are quite a few alternative panel filters to the K+N ones on offer. Majority of them are cheaper and better quality in my opinion. I run the ITG panel filter (the 1's that are used in most touring cars). Same as the K+N but better quality imo and about £15 - £20 cheaper.
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    K&N Panel Filter for an A3/S3 is p/n 33-2128 and will fit the following cars:

    2004 AUDI A3 3.2L V6 F/I - 250BHP, 24v
    2004 AUDI RS4 2.7L V6 F/I - Bi-Turbo, Quattro
    2004 AUDI TT 1.8L L4 F/I - All
    2004 SEAT LEON 1.9L L4 DSL - All
    2004 VOLKSWAGEN BEETLE 1.6L L4 F/I - 102BHP, 8v, OHC
    2004 VOLKSWAGEN BEETLE 1.8L L4 F/I - Turbo
    2004 VOLKSWAGEN BEETLE 1.9L L4 DSL - Turbo
    2004 VOLKSWAGEN BEETLE 2.0L L4 F/I - All
    2004 VOLKSWAGEN GOLF 1.8L L4 F/I - Turbo
    2004 VOLKSWAGEN GOLF 1.9L L4 DSL - Turbo
    2004 VOLKSWAGEN GOLF 2.0L L4 F/I - All
    2004 VOLKSWAGEN GOLF 2.8L V6 F/I - VR6
    2004 VOLKSWAGEN GTI 1.8L L4 F/I - Turbo
    2004 VOLKSWAGEN GTI 2.8L V6 F/I - All
    2004 VOLKSWAGEN JETTA 1.8L L4 F/I - Turbo
    2004 VOLKSWAGEN JETTA 1.9L L4 DSL - Turbo
    2004 VOLKSWAGEN JETTA 2.0L L4 F/I - All
    2004 VOLKSWAGEN JETTA 2.8L V6 F/I - VR6
    2003 AUDI A3 3.2L V6 F/I - 250BHP, 24v
    2003 AUDI S3 1.8L L4 F/I - Non-US, Quattro
    2003 AUDI TT 1.8L L4 F/I - All
    2003 SEAT LEON 1.9L L4 DSL - All
    2003 VOLKSWAGEN BEETLE 1.6L L4 F/I - 102BHP, 8v
    2003 VOLKSWAGEN BEETLE 1.8L L4 F/I - Turbo
    2003 VOLKSWAGEN BEETLE 1.9L L4 DSL - Turbo
    2003 VOLKSWAGEN BEETLE 2.0L L4 F/I - All
    2003 VOLKSWAGEN BORA 1.8L L4 F/I - 180BHP, 20v
    2003 VOLKSWAGEN BORA 1.9L L4 DSL - Non-US, All BHP models
    2003 VOLKSWAGEN BORA 2.0L L4 F/I - 115BHP, OHC
    2003 VOLKSWAGEN BORA 2.3L V5 F/I - 170BHP
    2003 VOLKSWAGEN BORA 2.8L V6 F/I - 204BHP
    2003 VOLKSWAGEN GOLF 1.8L L4 DSL - Turbo
    2003 VOLKSWAGEN GOLF 1.8L L4 F/I - 180BHP, 20v, Turbo
    2003 VOLKSWAGEN GOLF 1.9L L4 DSL - Turbo
    2003 VOLKSWAGEN GOLF 2.0L L4 F/I - All
    2003 VOLKSWAGEN GOLF 2.8L V6 F/I - All
    2003 VOLKSWAGEN GOLF 3.2L V6 F/I - 241BHP, R32
    2003 VOLKSWAGEN GOLF IV 1.9L L4 DSL - All BHP models, Turbo 68BHP
    2003 VOLKSWAGEN GOLF IV 2.3L V5 F/I - 170BHP
    2003 VOLKSWAGEN GTI 1.8L L4 F/I - Turbo
    2003 VOLKSWAGEN GTI 2.8L V6 F/I - All
    2003 VOLKSWAGEN JETTA 1.8L L4 F/I - Turbo
    2003 VOLKSWAGEN JETTA 1.9L L4 DSL - Turbo
    2003 VOLKSWAGEN JETTA 2.0L L4 F/I - All
    2003 VOLKSWAGEN JETTA 2.8L V6 F/I - All
    2002 AUDI S3 1.8L L4 F/I - Non-US, Quattro
    2002 AUDI TT 1.8L L4 F/I - All
    2002 SEAT ALHAMBRA 2.8L V6 F/I - 204BHP, AEH
    2002 SEAT CORDOBA 1.9L L4 SDI - 68BHP, AGP
    2002 SEAT IBIZA 1.9L L4 SDI - 68BHP, AGP
    2002 SEAT LEON 1.6L L4 F/I - 100BHP, AEH, AKL
    2002 SEAT LEON 1.8L L4 F/I - 125BHP,20v,AGN,APG;180BHP,Turbo AUQ,ARY,APP
    2002 SEAT LEON 1.9L L4 DSL - All
    2002 SEAT LEON 2.3L V5 F/I - 170BHP, AQN; 150BHP, AGZ
    2002 SEAT TOLEDO 1.6L L4 F/I - 100BHP, AEH, AKL
    2002 SEAT TOLEDO 1.8L L4 F/I - 125BHP,20v,AGN,APG;180BHP,Turbo,AUQ
    2002 SEAT TOLEDO 2.3L V5 F/I - 170BHP, AQN; 150BHP, AGZ
    2002 VOLKSWAGEN BEETLE 1.6L L4 F/I - 102BHP, 8V
    2002 VOLKSWAGEN BEETLE 1.8L L4 F/I - Turbo
    2002 VOLKSWAGEN BEETLE 1.9L L4 DSL - Turbo
    2002 VOLKSWAGEN BEETLE 2.0L L4 F/I - All
    2002 VOLKSWAGEN BORA 1.8L L4 F/I - 150/180BHP, 20v, Turbo
    2002 VOLKSWAGEN BORA 1.9L L4 DSL - All BHP models, Turbo
    2002 VOLKSWAGEN BORA 2.0L L4 F/I - 115BHP, OHC
    2002 VOLKSWAGEN BORA 2.3L V5 F/I - 170BHP
    2002 VOLKSWAGEN BORA 2.8L V6 F/I - 204BHP
    2002 VOLKSWAGEN GOLF 1.8L L4 F/I - Turbo
    2002 VOLKSWAGEN GOLF 1.9L L4 DSL - All
    2002 VOLKSWAGEN GOLF 2.0L L4 F/I - All
    2002 VOLKSWAGEN GOLF 2.8L V6 F/I - All
    2002 VOLKSWAGEN GOLF 3.2L V6 F/I - 241BHP, R32
    2002 VOLKSWAGEN GOLF IV 1.9L L4 DSL - All BHP models
    2002 VOLKSWAGEN GOLF IV 2.3L V5 F/I - 170BHP
    2002 VOLKSWAGEN GTI 1.8L L4 F/I - All
    2002 VOLKSWAGEN GTI 1.9L L4 TDI - All
    2002 VOLKSWAGEN GTI 2.0L L4 F/I - All
    2002 VOLKSWAGEN GTI 2.8L V6 F/I - All
    2002 VOLKSWAGEN JETTA 1.8L L4 F/I - Turbo
    2002 VOLKSWAGEN JETTA 1.9L L4 DSL - Turbo
    2002 VOLKSWAGEN JETTA 2.0L L4 F/I - All
    2002 VOLKSWAGEN JETTA 2.8L V6 F/I - All
    2001 AUDI TT 1.8L L4 F/I - All
    2001 SEAT ALHAMBRA 2.8L V6 F/I - 204BHP, AEH
    2001 SEAT ALHAMBRA 2.8L V6 F/I - 204BHP, AEH
    2001 SEAT CORDOBA 1.9L L4 SDI - 68BHP, AGP
    2001 SEAT IBIZA 1.9L L4 SDI - 68BHP, AGP
    2001 SEAT LEON 1.6L L4 F/I - 100BHP, AEH, AKL
    2001 SEAT LEON 1.8L L4 F/I - 125BHP,20v,AGN,APG;180BHP,Turbo,AUQ,ARY,APP
    2001 SEAT LEON 1.9L L4 DSL - All
    2001 SEAT LEON 2.3L V5 F/I - 170BHP, AQN; 150BHP, AGZ
    2001 SEAT TOLEDO 1.6L L4 F/I - 100BHP, AEH, AKL
    2001 SEAT TOLEDO 1.8L L4 F/I - 125BHP,20v,AGN,APG;180BHP,Turbo,AUQ
    2001 SEAT TOLEDO 2.3L V5 F/I - 170BHP, AQN; 150BHP, AGZ
    2001 VOLKSWAGEN BEETLE 1.6L L4 F/I - 102BHP, 8v
    2001 VOLKSWAGEN BEETLE 1.8L L4 F/I - Turbo
    2001 VOLKSWAGEN BEETLE 1.9L L4 DSL - Turbo
    2001 VOLKSWAGEN BEETLE 2.0L L4 F/I - All
    2001 VOLKSWAGEN BORA 1.6L L4 F/I - 100BHP, 20v
    2001 VOLKSWAGEN BORA 1.8L L4 F/I - 150BHP, 20v
    2001 VOLKSWAGEN BORA 1.9L L4 DSL - All BHP models
    2001 VOLKSWAGEN BORA 2.0L L4 F/I - 115BHP, OHC
    2001 VOLKSWAGEN BORA 2.3L V5 F/I - 170BHP, DOHC
    2001 VOLKSWAGEN BORA 2.8L V6 F/I - 204BHP, DOHC
    2001 VOLKSWAGEN GOLF 1.8L L4 F/I - Turbo
    2001 VOLKSWAGEN GOLF 1.9L L4 DSL - Turbo
    2001 VOLKSWAGEN GOLF 2.0L L4 F/I - All
    2001 VOLKSWAGEN GOLF 2.8L V6 F/I - All
    2001 VOLKSWAGEN GOLF IV 1.6L L4 F/I - 100BHP, 20v
    2001 VOLKSWAGEN GOLF IV 1.9L L4 DSL - All BHP models
    2001 VOLKSWAGEN GOLF IV 2.3L V5 F/I - 170BHP
    2001 VOLKSWAGEN GTI 1.8L L4 F/I - Turbo
    2001 VOLKSWAGEN GTI 2.0L L4 F/I - AEG
    2001 VOLKSWAGEN GTI 2.8L V6 F/I - AFP
    2001 VOLKSWAGEN JETTA 1.8L L4 F/I - Turbo
    2001 VOLKSWAGEN JETTA 1.9L L4 DSL - Turbo
    2001 VOLKSWAGEN JETTA 2.0L L4 F/I - All
    2001 VOLKSWAGEN JETTA 2.8L V6 F/I - All
    2000 AUDI TT 1.8L L4 F/I - All
    2000 MERCEDES BENZ S430 4.3L V8 F/I - All
    2000 SEAT ALHAMBRA 2.8L V6 F/I - 204BHP, AEH
    2000 SEAT CORDOBA 1.9L L4 F/I - 68BHP, AGP, SDi
    2000 SEAT IBIZA 1.9L L4 SDI - 69BHP, AGP
    2000 SEAT LEON 1.6L L4 F/I - 100BHP, AEH, AKL
    2000 SEAT LEON 1.8L L4 F/I - 125BHP,20v,AGN,APG;180BHP,Turbo AUQ,4WD,AJQ
    2000 SEAT LEON 1.9L L4 DSL - All
    2000 SEAT LEON 2.3L V5 F/I - 170BHP, AQN; 150BHP, AGZ
    2000 SEAT TOLEDO 1.6L L4 F/I - 100BHP, AEH, AKL
    2000 SEAT TOLEDO 1.8L L4 F/I - 125BHP,20v,AGN,APG;180BHP,Turbo AUQ,4WD,AJQ
    2000 SEAT TOLEDO 2.3L V5 F/I - 170BHP, AQN; 150BHP, AGZ
    2000 SKODA OCTAVIA 1.8L L4 F/I - All
    2000 SKODA OCTAVIA 1.9L L4 SDI - All
    2000 SKODA OCTAVIA 1.9L L4 TDI - Turbo
    2000 VOLKSWAGEN BEETLE 1.6L L4 F/I - 102BHP, 8v, from 8/00
    2000 VOLKSWAGEN BEETLE 1.8L L4 F/I - Turbo
    2000 VOLKSWAGEN BEETLE 1.9L L4 DSL - Turbo
    2000 VOLKSWAGEN BEETLE 2.0L L4 F/I - All
    2000 VOLKSWAGEN BORA 1.6L L4 F/I - 100BHP, 20v, DOHC
    2000 VOLKSWAGEN BORA 1.9L L4 DSL - All BHP models
    2000 VOLKSWAGEN BORA 2.0L L4 F/I - 115BHP
    2000 VOLKSWAGEN BORA 2.3L V5 F/I - 150/170BHP, DOHC
    2000 VOLKSWAGEN BORA 2.8L V6 F/I - 204BHP
    2000 VOLKSWAGEN GOLF 1.8L L4 F/I - Turbo
    2000 VOLKSWAGEN GOLF 1.9L L4 TDI - Turbo
    2000 VOLKSWAGEN GOLF 2.0L L4 F/I - All
    2000 VOLKSWAGEN GOLF 2.8L V6 F/I - All
    2000 VOLKSWAGEN GOLF IV 1.6L L4 F/I - 100BHP, 20v
    2000 VOLKSWAGEN GOLF IV 1.9L L4 DSL - All BHP models, Turbo 68BHP
    2000 VOLKSWAGEN GOLF IV 2.3L V5 F/I - 150/170BHP
    2000 VOLKSWAGEN GTI 1.8L L4 F/I - Turbo
    2000 VOLKSWAGEN GTI 2.0L L4 F/I - AEG
    2000 VOLKSWAGEN GTI 2.8L V6 F/I - AFP
    2000 VOLKSWAGEN JETTA 1.8L L4 F/I - Turbo
    2000 VOLKSWAGEN JETTA 1.9L L4 DSL - Turbo
    2000 VOLKSWAGEN JETTA 2.0L L4 F/I - All
    2000 VOLKSWAGEN JETTA 2.8L V6 F/I - All
    1999 MERCEDES BENZ S430 4.3L V8 F/I - All
    1999 SEAT CORDOBA 1.9L L4 SDI - 68BHP, AGP
    1999 SEAT IBIZA 1.9L L4 SDI - 60BHP, AGP
    1999 SEAT LEON 1.6L L4 F/I - 100BHP, AEH, AKL
    1999 SEAT LEON 1.8L L4 F/I - 125BHP, 20v, AGN, APG; 180BHP, Turbo, APP
    1999 SEAT LEON 2.3L V5 F/I - 150BHP, AGZ
    1999 SEAT TOLEDO 1.6L L4 F/I - 100BHP, AEH, AKL
    1999 SEAT TOLEDO 1.8L L4 F/I - 125BHP, 20v, AGN, APG
    1999 SEAT TOLEDO 2.3L V5 F/I - 150BHP, AGZ
    1999 SKODA OCTAVIA 1.8L L4 F/I - All
    1999 SKODA OCTAVIA 1.9L L4 SDI - All
    1999 SKODA OCTAVIA 1.9L L4 TDI - Turbo
    1999 VOLKSWAGEN BEETLE 1.8L L4 F/I - Turbo
    1999 VOLKSWAGEN BEETLE 1.9L L4 DSL - Turbo
    1999 VOLKSWAGEN BEETLE 2.0L L4 F/I - All
    1999 VOLKSWAGEN BORA 1.6L L4 F/I - 100BHP, 20v
    1999 VOLKSWAGEN BORA 1.9L L4 DSL - All BHP models
    1999 VOLKSWAGEN BORA 2.0L L4 F/I - 115BHP, OHC
    1999 VOLKSWAGEN BORA 2.3L V5 F/I - 150BHP
    1999 VOLKSWAGEN GOLF 1.9L L4 F/I - All
    1999 VOLKSWAGEN GOLF 2.0L L4 F/I - AEG, new body style
    1999 VOLKSWAGEN GOLF 2.8L V6 F/I - AFP, new body style
    1999 VOLKSWAGEN GOLF IV 1.6L L4 F/I - 100BHP, 20v
    1999 VOLKSWAGEN GOLF IV 1.8L L4 F/I - 125BHP, 20v
    1999 VOLKSWAGEN GOLF IV 1.9L L4 DSL - All BHP models
    1999 VOLKSWAGEN GOLF IV 2.3L V5 F/I - 150BHP
    1999 VOLKSWAGEN GTI 2.0L L4 F/I - AEG
    1999 VOLKSWAGEN GTI 2.8L V6 F/I - AFP
    1999 VOLKSWAGEN JETTA 1.9L L4 DSL - new body style, Turbo
    1999 VOLKSWAGEN JETTA 2.0L L4 F/I - AEG, new body style
    1999 VOLKSWAGEN JETTA 2.8L V6 F/I - AFP, new body style
    1998 (and later) AUDI TT 1.8L L4 F/I - Turbo
    1998 SKODA OCTAVIA 1.8L L4 F/I - All
    1998 SKODA OCTAVIA 1.9L L4 SDI - All
    1998 SKODA OCTAVIA 1.9L L4 TDI - Turbo
    1998 VOLKSWAGEN BEETLE 1.8L L4 F/I - Turbo
    1998 VOLKSWAGEN BEETLE 1.9L L4 DSL - Turbo
    1998 VOLKSWAGEN BEETLE 1.9L L4 TDI - Turbo
    1998 VOLKSWAGEN BEETLE 2.0L L4 F/I - All
    1998 VOLKSWAGEN BORA 1.6L L4 F/I - All
    1998 VOLKSWAGEN BORA 1.9L L4 TDI - Turbo
    1998 VOLKSWAGEN BORA 2.0L L4 F/I - All
    1998 VOLKSWAGEN BORA 2.3L V5 F/I - All
    1998 VOLKSWAGEN GOLF IV 1.6L L4 F/I - 100BHP, 20v, DOHC
    1998 VOLKSWAGEN GOLF IV 1.8L L4 F/I - 125BHP, 20v, DOHC
    1998 VOLKSWAGEN GOLF IV 1.9L L4 DSL - All BHP models, Turbo 68BHP, OHC
    1998 VOLKSWAGEN GOLF IV 2.3L V5 F/I - 150BHP, DOHC
    1997 SKODA OCTAVIA 1.8L L4 F/I - All
    1997 SKODA OCTAVIA 1.9L L4 SDI - All
    1997 SKODA OCTAVIA 1.9L L4 TDI - Turbo
    1997 VOLKSWAGEN GOLF IV 1.6L L4 F/I - All
    1997 VOLKSWAGEN GOLF IV 1.8L L4 F/I - 125BHP, 20v, DOHC
    1997 VOLKSWAGEN GOLF IV 1.9L L4 DSL - inc.Turbo
    1997 VOLKSWAGEN GOLF IV 2.0L L4 F/I - All
    1997 VOLKSWAGEN GOLF IV 2.3L V5 F/I - All
    1996 (and later) AUDI A3 1.6L L4 F/I - Non-US
    1996 (and later) AUDI A3 1.8L L4 F/I - Turbo
    1996 (and later) AUDI A3 1.9L L4 TDI - Turbo

    Info taken from K&N website
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    Cheers Grant /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beerchug.gif

    Pure Is the ITG filter foam?
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    Gees o Grant, your fingers must be killing you. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/lol.gif
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    I had a K&N Panel filter on my S3 for about 8 months and never had any problems at all not one drop of oil on the MAF sensor.

    I have just put a Green Induction kit on it becasue these are only lightly oiled and I have to say what a transformation of the car. So much more responsive and pulls much more in mid range and top end.

    If you like the Turbo Spooling up noise then have a look at these kits.

    Surprising that there is no difference in the engine note though I thought it would growl a lot more but it does not.

    A worth while investment I say !

    £92 inc VAT and Delivery.
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    Scotty what type of Green kit do you have? I've seen 3 or 4 different Green kits ranging from £40-£175. Badger5 have a Seat Leon seemingly with a dyno proven 8bhp and 13lb/ft increase using the stainless steel encased Green at £175 + carriage
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    I have a K&N panel filter which I ran in my A3 1.8TS for about 6 months. I'm open to sensible offers if anyone is interested.
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    You won't hear the growl like a NA engine as the turbo is in the way if you get what I mean.

    The growl comes from the inlet air pulses, which are dampened out by the turbo/intercooler etc.
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    Cheers Grant /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beerchug.gif

    Pure Is the ITG filter foam?

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    Yup, with like a wire frame / mesh on the top. It fits perfectly.
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    Are BMC panel filters any good?
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