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K&N Panel filter help!!!!

Discussion in 'A3/S3/Sportback (8P Chassis)' started by HIGGINS, Mar 31, 2010.

  1. HIGGINS
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    I currently drive a AUDI A3 2.0TDI 170 S-LINE QUATTRO and im having trouble fitting it, here is the engine:
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    Just behind where the audi logo is there is a bolt do i take this off?

    where does the filter go? :p

    im a noob here sorry haha ive just about got the car.
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    paddy Audi=No fault code, no idea

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    the filter goes in the box on the right next to the bit with the x on top
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    Air box is the part on the front right in front of the battery. There will be a few screws to pop out, and then just swap over from the paper one.
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  4. Finally Got An A3
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    Are panel filters any good on 2.0 TDi's?
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    thought we had all decided that oily filters like the K&N were bad for your MAF meter?
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    [​IMG]

    Is it the green bit of the blue bit i need to screw off and replace?
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    Blue square mate
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    That's why I run a dry Pipercross. VAG MAF's are a piece of **** at the best of time, they don't need any more help in dying!
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    +1
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    In a word no i wouldnt bother,unless your bothered about a tiny bit more intake noise but power wise no difference
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    Strange, I'd completely disagree. No noticeable difference in intake noise, but I've always found diesels respond better to a panel filter than any petrol car.
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    They are,i have a k+n at home that was fitted to mine. Defo not good on diesels.
    Anyone can have mine for free if there in derbyshire,i have the cotton green one
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    Brilliant ive fitted it, it was reallllly easy haha. First time for everything though,

    thanks for the help
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    Straight forward once you know where it goes isn't it!
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    It won't be good when your maf is $hagged mate.I would do a bit more research if i was you.
    I am only trying to offer some friendly advise.
    I had one in my a3 tdi and removed it straight away and the guy i got it from also said i should do
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    luke1987 Air Ride is for Ballers!!

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    cotton green all the way man!!!
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    ill make sure the MAF sensor is kept nice and clean :) ill keep an eye on it.
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    mate is it really worth risking it? when u can get a cotton green for 50 quid and is concidered the best filter for the 2.0tdi. just dont wanna see u damage ur car mate
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    i'm with the MAF-ia on here, dont fit a K&N else you will be forking out £150+ on a MAF, I found out the hard way, MAF's are impossible to keep clean safely anyway, they are too delicate to be messing with.
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    Agree to not agree there then mate,i have always found an aftermarkets panel filter more noisey as they are a lot more easy flowing equalling more air passing through the again equalling more of an intake noise but as for freeing the car up i didnt notice anything at all,the only thing i have found to sharpen up the respone on a diesel was to put a more free flowing exhaust on and get rid of the soot cannister/cat not saying your wrong but this is my experience on a diesel astra and my gttd150 golf,plus people who have fitted panel filters have made little or no difference at all on dyno bhp outputs even thought i know there are many thousands who have had no issues but then again thousands who have the extra risk of damaging the fibres on the maf with oil i could never see the point
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    The point is Phil, a K&N will not flow more air and therefore make more noise. The amount of air flowed is governed by the swept volume of the cyl's. IE: the amount t they can suck in. Its highly unlikely you would reach a point on a low reving diesel where a std paper filter could not flow enough air. the only real benefit of K&N is longer life. the only time a AM panel filter might help is if used with a free flow exhaust...Its no good opening the taps one end unless you pull the plug out the other :)...
    A turbo obviously over comes the swept volume problem but the std paper filter is designed to cope with that.
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    Thats why i said about the exhuast,i was on about where as people who are simply on about fitting an air filter and thinking they might see a gain on a diesel with nothing else done,if they did want to go for one i would recommend the ITG or green filters as they dont come massively oiled,sorry if i seemed like i shot of the rails there but it was meant in the way of on a standard car with standard exhuast there are other things i would spend on first, i was thinking if he meant in - would a filter gain anything kind of way instead of a filter to save replacement for a few years kind of way.me bad sorry :redface:
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