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Discussion in 'A4/S4 forum(B5 Chassis)' started by tdia4, Aug 29, 2010.

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    As the title says, my cars started knocking when going over pot holes etc, im going to replace the anti roll bar drop links, does it sound like it could be this? Or anything else? My wheel bearing is well on its way out on that side aswell, would this be doing it?

    Oh and i had a quick look at the suspension set up yesterday and noticed that the large bolt (top part)
    was snapped, so would this be doing anything? I've ordered another set of these bolts because i've heard they snap whenever you try take them off and because i'll be having coilovers fitted soon i thought id get some new one.
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    ball joints....all of them.
    save yourself some ball ache and replace the whole lot. (£300+ Meyle kit from allgermanparts)
    snapped bolts are never a good sign. I assume you mean the pinch bolt?
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    Ye its the pinch bolt that has snapped
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    Yeah, that bolt should be holding your top ball joints in the upright. :)
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    Yeah, it's still in, just noticed the nut has been snapped off, would this make a knocking do you think?
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    no. my money is on the lower ball joints and possibly some bushes worn out.
    does it knock on full lock?
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    Not tried buddy, just noticed it when going over man hole covers, pot holes etc. Can anyone point me in the direction for the parts i will need, seems to be so many for the a4 suspension wise.
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    seriously, you are probably prolonging the knock for a few months by only replacing a few parts in the front suspension.
    you would be wise to replace the whole set of arms left and right.

    if one ball joint or bush is shaged then they are probably all pretty worn. It is not a big job if you wanted to do it yourself and if you are paying someone else you are saving yourself a fortune by doing it once properly.

    it is also very difficult to pinpoint exactly which one is producing teh noise whilst it is standing still
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    They always tend to go together..... do the lot
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    If you fit that, you'll be changing it again in 6 months.

    I did, 4 months later the balljoints had more play than the ones i removed, and it wrecked both front tyres.

    Meyle or Lemforder.
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    What does everyone think of these..

    file:///H:/FRONT-SUSPEN-ARMS-LINKS-T-R-ENDS_W0QQitemZ300363771214QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM.htm
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    See my previous reply.

    Its one area i just wouldnt skimp on, because its not just the parts, but the associated costs (ie tracking, tyre wear etc) that make it an expensive job to have to do twice.
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    Would it not be best to replace with the Genuine Audi ones then if it's so critical or is it a Mortgage job..just passed my MOT so mine should be ok...

    The guy there did said they are always failing them on Audis..
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    Audi parts are VERY expensive.

    The Meyle and Lemforder bits are decent quality and should last a sensible amount of time, but your not paying the Audi tax.
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    [Sep 8, 2010]
    Has anyone actually enquired about the price of the Audi Ones...
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    they use meyle/lemforder/febi parts anyway. you are just bending over for the sake of it
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    Right,did not know they use the same supplier..so no need to get Audi ones..Worth knowing another thing waiting to happen on the List..
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    rough prices from etka, but to give you a ballpark, Lower rear arm is ~£170, Lower front arm is ~£200, upper arms are ~£90 each

    C-Links are about £35 each and rod ends are ~£60 each

    So a full setup from audi would be somewhere in the region of £1100.

    Lemforder, who are apparently the OEM, will sell you the parts for about half that, and Meyle are a bit cheaper.
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    i use a company called TPS (Trade part services.
    I get Audi or VAG boxed and branded parts at trade prices, seriously cheap compared to Audi
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    I went for a meyle kit got if from Germany for just under £300. I did price the Lemforder parts from eurocarparts and that was around £410, but not sure if the Lemforder parts come with all the bolts, if not then add another £20 ish. The Melye kits come with all the required bolts.

    Lemforder are an OEM suppler as that's what is printed along with the Audi logo on some of the arm's that were take off.
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    I have seen Lemforda parts, with gen Audi logos and part numbers...
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    well, I paid £350 for the whole car with the boost fault (now fixed) and with 6 months tax n' test, and its not worth more than a grand in good nick even wi a full years mot & tax, so sorry lads, could never ever justify those crazy prices for suspension arms and balljoints! Sheesh lemforder single link arms are like £70 each and the flamin B5 has loads of them!

    LOL!

    It'll be ebay cheapos for this old bus any day.
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    Ye, but on the other hand, how many **** sets would you go thru, before you get fed up with changing them every 4 months and replacing the tyres they've wrecked too?

    Sure, i wouldnt fit lemforder parts to an old clunker, but the meyle stuff is decent enough and a decent amount cheaper.
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    these are general wear and tear items and if you want to keep a car nice and driving correct you need to do certain bits, regular 5k oil changes, arms, mounts, suspension etc unless it's just a cheap throw away car which you'll scrap
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    fords are cheap for parts !
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    it is a cheap throw away car in a way, at 14 years old its not worth much and never will be. Does anyone know of a full kit for it that uses meyle parts and reasonably cheap? (under £300) I do like the car but couldnt justify spending like £500-600 notes on suspension parts for it, never in a million years. Servicing needs done, yeah and if it was my pride and joy (the B6 was till it died) then defo but its not.
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    O34 do a kit for about 350 dollars but not sur what postage would be unless you know someone that lives or is going out there
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    TBH, if i was on a budget and considered the car to be a binger that wasnt worth spending money on, i'd use quality parts, but i'd only replace whats needed.

    The complete meyle kit is £330ish on german ebay, and thats what i put on the old car, but if it was a jalopy i didnt care about, i'd only have replaced the upper arms when they failed, rather than fitting the full kit.

    The only thing i'd recommend doing on it is the rear axle bushes, as those really transform how the motor drives, and cost £15.
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    are the rear axle bushes a pain to do ie need a press as would poly ones be easier to fit
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    We did it without removing the axle, using threaded rod and bits of pipe to press the bushes out, and back in.

    Just removed the two big bolts and gently lowered the axle down, cant go too far due to the brake hoses though.

    Dont you have a quattro though?
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    Oh yeah different setup on them
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    nice one cheers Aragorn, will look at them.

    sorry for bein pissy earlier, had found a whopping hole under the battery, that sickened me a bit, but hey it can be welded I suppose.

    in truth I do love the car! ;)
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    A hole?!

    Sure its not jsut the drain hole?
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    its bigger than a fist lol, the B5 seems to have suffered battery leakage issues in some early cars, mine had the battery replaced under warranty for acid leakage, I guess it wasnt treated to prevent further corrosion, weldable tho I reckon.
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