My eldest has been 17 since January and is now wanting to learn to drive. This is good. Unfortunately, it is becoming more and more apparent that the insurance is going to cost as much as the car. This is bad. Having carried out loads of online quotes, we have discovered the following things: - Tesco seem to be fairly consistently either cheapest or near enough cheapest - Insurance is a rip off - My son now wishes he was a girl. Try this, its sickening. Go to Tesco insurance quotes, and get a quote for a 17 yr old learner, no accidents or convictions, just starting out. To insure a 1.0 Micra GX, or equivalent, no mods, manual box, approx a P or R reg car value about £1200.. PREMIUM IS £1523.55 pa.. and no terms cos hes less than 18.. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif The 1.3 version would cost him £1816.50 pa A 1.4 Golf would cost him £1758.. They wouldnt even quote online on a 1.6 A3.. Now re-enter the same details with MISS instead of MR.. Same age, same everything.. Now the 1.0 is just £875.70 and the 1.3 is just £1042.65.. no justice.. So, some of you must be in the same boat.. Any tips on beating these prices to insure a 1 litre sh1tbox of some description???