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inner edge tyre wear.

Discussion in 'A4/S4 forum(B5 Chassis)' started by Oranoco, Apr 26, 2011.

  1. Oranoco

    Oranoco Well-Known Member

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    The very inside edge of the nsf tyre has worn in a vastly accelerated fashion. I'm thinking this and my vague steering are linked. Thinking my mate may have made a hash of doing the alignment after the oily bushes.

    Anybody have the proper geometry settings so I can cross reference what the local tyre centre does?. More flamming money :-(
     
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  3. aragorn

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    Sounds like tracking, but it could be a failed balljoint on one of the control arms.

    Toe settings are iirc ten minutes toe in.
     
  4. Oranoco

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    Think I'll get it under it on Friday and see what's what. Really not best pleased as I had, apparently, the alignment done when the polybushes were fitted. Forking out £250 for another pair of tyres on top of getting the alignment redone and replacing the water pump is far less than funny :(
     
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    Happened to me when i fitted chocolate spec ebay arms.

    Fitted them, had it all aligned, put some new tyres on the rear and moved the part worn eagle f1's to the front.

    Couple months later it went thru an MOT and the tester said there was a tiny bit of play in the upper arms, figured he was just trying to drum up some business so ignored it.

    Few months after that there was a horrible steering vibration so i jacked the car up to see what was going on. All four top arm balljoints had more play in them than the 150k old Audi ones i'd removed 4 months previous, and both front tyres were heavily worn on the inner shoulder, and worn eggshaped too!

    Ended up spending £350 on a proper Meyle arm kit, £150 on new tyres and £50 on another alignment, all because of a shitty set of £120 arms from ebay!
     
  6. Oranoco

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    Hear what you're saying mate. Only ever use OEM arms after shocking experience with pattern items, a lower arm that lasted 6 weeks!!
     
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    my rears were seriously worn on the insides. One of the rear springs was snapped. Fixed that and new tyres are wearing evenly so far.
     
  8. ScottD3

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    I swapped my tyres around this weekend and noticed the same thing.
    When I did that the tracking went and the steering wheel is no long straight.
    Going to get the tracking looked at next week.

    Which arms and balljoints normaly cause this and best to check?
     
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    upper ones have the biggest effect i think, but all of them really.
     
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    Just walked in. Been under the car whilst a neighbour jiggled the steering wheel for me and as far as I can see there is no play in any of the ball joints. Hopefully this will cost me the alignment and a pair of tyres... oh yeah, and a new water pump :( . 65,000 miles and almost no problems and now it's been nothing but problems for a couple of months now :(
     
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    when mine went (both times) you could see the movement just wiggling the wheel, didnt even need to touch the steering.
     
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    Thanks mate. I'll see what the tracking guy comes back with.

    Thats the way it happens innit. Its all fine and roses and then things wear out and break. :(

    EDIT:=- Do the 6 Oclock hands and wiggle and then the 9:15 hands and wiggle. see what movement you get.
     
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    The settings I have found give me a Static Toe of +10 (+-2) and Constant Toe of +7 (+-2). After dropping car off this morning I find out they set all cars to 0 toe in. If it's not done right I'm not paying.
     
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    +10 minutes is a sixth of a degree, so for all intents and purposes 0 degrees is fine.

    Might not handle exactly perfectly, but it certainly wouldnt wear the tyres out being set to 0 rather than +10', if anything it would wear them less.
     
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    they are best to be set with toe in though to accomodate for the toe out created under acceleration.

    sounds like worn steering arms to me.
     
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    Arms are peachy mate, All have been replaced with OEM items over the last 6 months and were checked when the polybushes were fitted in a few weeks back.
     
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    mine were replaced with "oem" ones and lasted 4 months!
     
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    Lemforder is OEM.

    I'd only use Lemforder or Meyle.
     
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    Checked the hub nut?
     
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    why is your steering vague?

    your track rod end ball joints would affect wheel geometry, juts **** feel.

    do the wheel wiggle to check for any play.

    I actually prefer mine set at zero.
    definitely sharpens up turn in.

    just out of interest have the top mounts been off?
     
  21. Oranoco

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    All arms have been replaced in the last 12 months with new Lemforder items and the front end was fully polybushed back in Feb with new S4 TRE's. Top mounts were changed just before Christmas.

    I was playing with it again yesterday and wiggled the wheel and there seems to be a light clunk from the o/s but I can't see or feel where exactly but the clunk seems to have feel through the wheel. I want this sorted now and as I'm paid on Friday will be spending some time under the car. I'm now thinking one of the replaced arms has an issue.

    Ref hub nut, only nut loose is the one behind the wheel. lol
     

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