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Im Sh***ng myself - PART 2

Discussion in 'A3/S3 Forum (8L Chassis)' started by Trick, Jun 30, 2009.

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    [Jun 30, 2009]
    In relation to my previous thread (Which is currently down) :
    http://www.audi-sport.net/vb/showthread.php?t=74559

    So in typical ant and dec style:
    "The results are in. Please don't phone in as the phone lines are now closed, your votes will not count but you may still be charged."

    I had 4 Fault code, one of which i couldnt find an explination for:

    4 Faults Found:
    16706 - Engine Speed Sensor (G28): No Signal
    P0322 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent

    16395 - Shareware Version. To Decode all DTCs
    P0011 - 35-10 - Please Register/Activate - Intermittent

    17947 - Shareware Version. To Decode all DTCs
    P1539 - 35-00 - Please Register/Activate

    16705 - Engine Speed Sensor (G28): Implausible Signal
    P0321 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent

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    Description of Faults:


    16706/P0322/000802 - Engine Speed Sensor (G28): No Signal
    Possible Symptoms

    * Engine shuts off
    * Engine doesn't start
    * Speedometer inoperative
    * Glow Plug Indicator Lamp (K29) flashes

    Possible Causes

    * Engine Speed Sensor (G28) loose
    * Engine Speed Sensor (G28) faulty

    Possible Solutions

    * Check Engine Speed Sensor (G28)

    Special Notes

    * The Engine Speed Sensor (G28) is also used as a reference sensor for the crankshaft position.
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    16395/P0011/000017 - Bank 1: Camshaft A (Intake): Retard Setpoint not Reached (Over-Advanced)
    Possible Symptoms

    * Power Loss

    Possible Causes

    * Camshaft Adjustment Valve 1 (N205) faulty
    * Fuel Pump Relay (J17) faulty

    Possible Solutions

    * Check Camshaft Adjustment Valve 1 (N205)
    * Check Fuel Pump Relay (J17)

    Special Notes

    * When found in Engine: 4.0l W8
    o Check TPL 2010059(RoW)
    + Check/Replace Oil Sieve in Timing Case (Camshaft Adjuster)
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    ????????????????????????????????????????????????

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    16705/P0321/000801 - Engine Speed Sensor (G28): Implausible Signal
    Possible Symptoms

    * Engine shuts off
    * Engine doesn't start
    * Speedometer inoperative
    * Glow Plug Indicator Lamp (K29) flashes

    Possible Causes

    * Engine Speed Sensor (G28) loose
    * Engine Speed Sensor (G28) faulty

    Possible Solutions

    * Check Engine Speed Sensor (G28)

    Special Notes

    * The Engine Speed Sensor (G28) is also used as a reference sensor for the crankshaft position and correlates with the Camshaft Position Sensor Bank 1 (G40) and Camshaft Position Sensor Bank 2 (G163).

    * When found in a VW Golf/Jetta (1J/9M) or Audi A3 (8L) with 1.9l TDI-PD (AXR), check TPI 2007067 which explains issues with electro mechanical interference. A modification to the wiring will fix this problem, extensive details can be found in the named TPI. Even though this TPI was originally released for VW Golf/Jetta (1J/9M), a customer of ours came across the same issue on an Audi A3 (8L).

    * When found in a 2004 VW Golf, Jetta, or New Beetle with 1.9l TDI-PD (BEW), check for TSB number 97-05-03 or 97-05-04 calling for a flash update to the ECU and a secondary ground installation. This applies if ECU software version is below 6328; current software version should be 7000 or higher.

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    So what does this all meen?
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    crank sensor matey :)
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    Any guides for replacing? :think:
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    What a surprise :rolleyes:

    It's a pretty easy job to replace, just a bit fiddly. There is a bolt holding the sensor in to the block which is the hardest part, the rest is simple.
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    Where's that poxy sensor, I dont have S3 anymore but had a warning about this to few years ago & always wondered where the little fecker was, lol, car ran absolutely perfectly though.
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    Aren't DTCs great, a scan throws up a million of them, and it only relates to one sensor, but that knackered sensor just causes a chain reaction and effects everything the car needs to operate smoothly.
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    So Jo, what you trying to say, lol.
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    you will need to jack the front of the car up and remove the under tray..... also i found it easier to remove the oil dipstick and that cradle that holds it in place.....

    use a small wrench and put your arms down through the front of the engine to get access (the sensor is just next to the oil filter)..... then you'll need to unplug it from the top - once done you'll have to shimmy under the car and remove the damn thing, not easy but patience will see it come out with a few thousand twists and turns.... you can only get one hand in so it is tricky..... then do everthing in reverse

    its easier i found to undo the bolt from the top as you can get both hands in albeit you have to put your arms down different routes to get to it - just dont sheath the bolt off!!
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    Nothing, I was just trying to add to my post count. :)
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    Thanks for all the help guys n gals. One last Q though. Can i put my S3 in limp mode through Vag-com to stop it cutting out until i can get it replaced? People in the car behind me are getting increasingly hostile when i stall infront of them lol
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    i dont think you can.....would expect that they would be more annoyd with limp mode tho haha..... i used my misus car for couple of days, if you havent got another id say you were stumped mate..... I was genuinly woprried about taking mine out at all once it started getin worse.... once it starts to get bad it starts flagging other faults like engine management lights etc etc...restarts become longer, and once restrated it doesnt guarantee that it will be fine for a few mins, it literally just drives liike a bag of s**t
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    lol great, only thing is it's going into a body shop on Friday to get sorted as my future father in law reversed a Cattle Trailer into the back of my beloved car!!!!! :banghead::bye::crying:

    Honestly, a cattle trailer of all things! You couldnt make this **** up.
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    [Jul 1, 2009]
    One more thing. . . . wheres the best place to buy it?
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    haha poor man!!

    erm i bought from a VW specialist and ended up with a part that fitted but didnt work...i then had to buy the original bit from Audi - so thats my suggestion (i lost £30 on the VW item)
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    Audi would be a good start, lol
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    lol cheers NHN :jester:
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    [Jul 9, 2009]
    SUPERBUMP

    Bodyshop called to say car is ready this morn, so hopefully pick up car today, and mate will drop off part tonight (he's a mechanic for Skoda) and hopefully fit it tonight!

    anyone got any pictures of the sensor and where it is ect?
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    [Jul 9, 2009]
    Should have done a bit of searching first! :whip:

    The part itself:
    [​IMG]

    And where it goes:

    "There's no DIY that I know of, but it should be a piece of cake. Remove the lower plastic engine cover and then look up at the driver's side of the front of the engine just above the oil pan/block interface. The sensor should be right there."

    The red arrow is the hole for the ESS. For reference, the yellow arrow is the hole for the oil cooler and the green arrow is the holes for the oil filter housing.

    [​IMG]

    Thread here: http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=2934505
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