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i know it cant kick out 375bhp logs new maf fitted and tc light on in 6th gear only??

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    [Nov 29, 2013]
    i know it cant kick out 375bhp logs


    naw bosch maf tc light comes on only when accelerating hard in 6th gear.

    any help welcome







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    Engine Speed Mass Air Flow Throttle Valve Angle Ignition Timing Retardation Timing Retardation Timing Retardation Engine Speed Intake Air Boost Pressure Boost Pressure
    TIME (G28) Timing Angle TIME Cylinder 1 Cylinder 2 Cylinder 3 Cylinder 4 TIME (G28) Temperature (G42) Control (N75) (actual)
    Marker STAMP /min g/s % °BTDC STAMP °KW °KW °KW °KW STAMP /min °C % mbar
    cheers mark
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    Definitely not kicking out 300grams from 2000mbar!

    You our got the correct maf?
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    ye correct maf took sensor out to check part nos with the old one.

    just strange readings ant the tc light on only when ex hard in 6th.

    vcds is throwing up maf error.
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    Maf right way round?
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    hes gone to check lol!
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    hope so! flow arrow towards turbo and square end of sensor also facing turbo.
    square end is on the outside where electrics connect

    cheers

    tried cheep chiness maf and that was throwing tc light on any gear and when boost kicked in.
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    s3dave TFSI Hybrid

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    Its easily done it must be, hell i left a well known mappers with it like that!! DONT ASK..
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    car idles and drives fine fuel trim at idle and after long run lhs goes to 0.4 max and rhs stays at 0.

    mark
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    If the turbo outlet pipe is leaking, it'll read high and chuck a maf fault
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    so what one is that!! lol its all bloody pipes
    cheers
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    The one directly off the turbo. I don't know what car you have to say much more
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    hi 2003 s3 bam, red one on top of engine?
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    thats the one
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    thanks, will check it out tmro
    mark
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    how will turbo outlet pipe effect turbo inlet apparent flow?

    dodgy maf it sounds like to me
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    any one got a working new or second maf sensor i can purchase? now it should be in classifieds but!!!!!
    just driving me mad. maf wasnew from ecp!

    mark
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    no idea, but you might remember me asking your advice on it. And that's what the problem was. The hose clip had come off at the turbo end, sometimes it drove perfect for days, other days it gave me a maf fault and was reading 290bhp of air on a standard map

    i didn't find this until after I had tried 3 MAFs, and fully rewired the maf loom back to the ecu :-(
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  19. epox
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    [Nov 30, 2013]
    hi guys.
    did have a look this pipe this morning look ok , will have to do a proper strip down i think!!!!!

    mark
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    badger5 www.badger5.co.uk Site Sponsor

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    how weird is that tho?
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    i know. I'm still not really sure how it did it, but it did. And was always a maf too high value.
    It was odd as well because some times it would hold 18psi, other times it was showing all the signs of a boost leak
    smoke test didn't show it up either
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    [Dec 1, 2013]
    ok checked all pipes no loose ones ! back to the maf.. more money for something that is a pain.
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