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How to fit your RS4 rear anti roll bar (rarb)

fourcircle Jun 15, 2011

  1. fourcircle

    fourcircle nj

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    I tried to take a couple of pics with my ohone as I did mine at the weekend and thought it's always handy to have a guide to take a look at beforehand. (disclaimer: any advice within this thread is just advice from my experience and shouldn't be taken as the gospel truth)

    RS4 RARB - 8E0 511 409 AL - £58.80
    two Bushes - 8E0 511 327 D - £2.78 each
    two Brackets - 8E0 511 439 - £2.85 each
    two rear drop links at £35 each from the dealer or sometimes cheaper on ebay. part numbers 8E0 505 465 AC or 8E0 505 465 AF
    I'd also recommend getting new bolts at the same time to make life easier. I didn't think of it at the time and turned out to be a pain in the arse.

    Jack the back of your car up and put it on axle stands. Take off one wheel and if you're any way sensible pop it somewhere under the edge of the sill as a back up (I'd actually prefer to have 2 axle stands on each side for super safety). You could take both wheels off if you prefer. personal choice but you'll need at least one off to get the old rarb out.

    Take a good look at the old rarb and where it connect to the drop links at each side. use safety glasses to avoid getting **** in your eyes. again, I didn't think of this until I had **** in my eye. Spray the existing bolts/fittings with WD40, wurths ant seize etc and go make a cup of tea.

    I'd suggest disconnecting the rarb from the drop links at each side first, while the rarb is held firm by the brackets. You'll need 18mm and 16mm spanners. best is an open 18 and ratchett 16 if you have them.
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    Then take the brackets off. two 13mm bolts on each. wtahc out for flakes of old rarb.
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    Now take the old drop links out and replace them with the new ones. note which way round they are as they come out and stick the new ones straight in. Again, it's two 13mm bolts.
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    Now you need to get the old rarb out. I believe that some cars may be easier than others. I have a twin exhaust system on my quattro so I'm sure a lot of people will be in the same boat. I had to drop both back boxes, which was easy enough by removing the two 13mm bolts on each supporting bracket. if you look at the big rubbers that hold the back boxes up, they attach to hooks/plates behind the rear bumper. They will come off easily enough. Make sure you have something supporting the exhaust when it drops. This should give you enough room to pull the old rarb out to the side.

    Slide the new rarb back in the same way and get the exhaust back up into place. wrap the new bushes and brackets around the rarb in the right place and tighten the bolts in a bit.. not the whole way though. Note that I first thought the rubber sleeves on the rarb were going to be too much when used with the new bushes but when you tighten the brackets on fully they will squeeze into place.

    The ends of the rarb probably won't align to the new drop links so put your wheel back on and if you have ramps drop the car back down off the axle stands and reverse it up onto the ramps so there is proper pressure pushing the suspension up. Get your wheel chocks in place and leave the car in reverse gear. Slide under and now you should be able to bolt the rarb ends to the drop links. After they're tight you can tighten up the brackets too. The reason for tightening at this point is the bushes should be under as little twisting pressure (there's a proper term for this that I can't think of right now) as possible. If you tighten everything when the wheels are off the ground then when you put the car down again the rarb will move and the bushes will suffer immediate, unneccessary force. I hope that makes sense?

    new brackets and bushes
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    and drop links
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    Double check everything's tight, get the car back down on the ground and go for a spin. now marvel at the difference, especially if your old parts were worn like mine.

    There are probably wiser forum members than me who can add to or correct parts of this so feel free, I won't be offended.
     
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  2. quattrojames

    quattrojames Moderator Staff Member Moderator Audi A6 Audi Avant Owner Group

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    Nice work mate, thanks for posting.

    I'm now the proud owner of one new rear drop link!
     
  3. fourcircle

    fourcircle nj

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    you always did have a problem with commitment James. go on, buy another one :)
    Actually that's a pain in the arse that the seller only had one left.
     
  4. fourcircle

    fourcircle nj

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    James, can you edit my original post to the part number 8E0 511 327D instead of "A" for the bushes. I'm not sure which thread I pulled those part numbers from at the time but it looks like the "A" part is for standard 20mm RARBs. I'm about to get a pair of "D"s and swap them.
     
  5. cobraBLACK

    cobraBLACK Chocolate? It's doo-doo, baby!

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    It's a good idea to use thread-locker on the bolts too.

    I've heard of cases where people's have come loose after a couple of weeks.
     
  6. quattrojames

    quattrojames Moderator Staff Member Moderator Audi A6 Audi Avant Owner Group

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    Edited mate, thanks for the update.
     
  7. CMD

    CMD Pointing Forward's!!!!!!!!!

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    One of the best mods for the our A4s
     
  8. Mike.M

    Mike.M Well-Known Member

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    This is def on my to do list
     
  9. robotplant

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    Just been reading this thread. I have a 03 2.5tdi sport quattro avant, will the rs4 rarb be worth doing..what's the difference in rarb's??
     
  10. quattrojames

    quattrojames Moderator Staff Member Moderator Audi A6 Audi Avant Owner Group

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    Yes it's very worthwhile, reduces understeer and makes the turn in much sharper.

    The RS4 bar is thicker, I can't remember the exact dimensions, but it's something like 24mm vs 18mm.
     
  11. robotplant

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    Thanks for your reply QuattroJames, I take it that the parts are only available through VW/AUDI? I reckon with 140 thou on my Audi the links will be worn now so the difference will no doubt be huge.
     
  12. pbarlow0032

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    Do you need to replace the drop links when you do this? Looking at a refresh of my suspension shortly so will look to do this at the same time (seems to be universally accepted as the best modification on ASN!). Daft question probably, but are there drop links at the front too?
     
  13. robotplant

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    Hope to price the parts up today if I can.
     
  14. dpbayly

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    Ordering my set up tomorrow but wanted to know what the difference is between the 2 drop links that are listed:
    8E0 505 465 AC
    8E0 505 465 AF
    Is there are reasen why there's 2 different ones listed?
     
  15. quattrojames

    quattrojames Moderator Staff Member Moderator Audi A6 Audi Avant Owner Group

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    Typically the F would indicate it's a later version of the C part, maybe improved in some way.
     
  16. dpbayly

    dpbayly Member

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    nice one thanks.
     
  17. alpesh26

    alpesh26 Active Member TeamMisano

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    Do you need to change the drop links or can you reuse the old ones? Can you tell if they've worn?

    Edit: just had a look through my receipts and my RARB was changed in 2010 and so were the links.
     
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  18. robotplant

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    You'll be all right on the links just change to the RS4 arb.
     
  19. demus

    demus Fire in the hole..

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    Updated prices from a couple of weeks ago..

    RS4 RARB 8E0-511-409-AL £120.96
    Bushes 8E0-511-327-D £7.61
    Brackets 8E0-511-439 £7.87
    Drop links 8E0-505-465-AF £63.34
     
  20. andy.l

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    Nice write up. Shall be adding this to my ' to do' list. :)
     
  21. JudderMan

    JudderMan Well-Known Member

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    Hmm that's about £100 more in total than what others have paid for, albeit 3-7 years ago from my Google searches...damn.
     
  22. demus

    demus Fire in the hole..

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    Check the condition of your drop links if your doing this mod, they are the same part, and mine were still solid at 115k, no play at all, didn't change them..
    They only take a few minutes to get off, so well worth checking..
     
  23. Ro55

    Ro55 Active Member VCDS Map User

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    Im doing this soon,was wandering if theres a front upgrade?
     
  24. Mike.M

    Mike.M Well-Known Member

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    The front is the same on all A4's
     
  25. Ro55

    Ro55 Active Member VCDS Map User

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    That would be why my search came up with nothing haha
     
  26. Mike.M

    Mike.M Well-Known Member

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    Possibly go down the poly bush route for the roll bar which is what I may be doing soon.
     
  27. Ro55

    Ro55 Active Member VCDS Map User

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    That's an idear last time i looked under £40
     

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