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HELP....How to remove the birds muck safely from paint.

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    Hi all

    Please can you advise me as to the best product to remove birds muck damage of the roof of my new car. IT WAS ONLY ON THERE FOR ABOUT AN HOUR. BUT IT LEFT A STAIN IN THE PAINT THE SIZE OF A 10P COIN.

    ive used my carnuba gold which has made it a lot better,but you can still see a haze where it was.
    i'm reluctant to use anything else with out advise.

    the amazing thing is i only fully waxed the car the day before.:sadlike:

    thanks
    Philip
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    Safe Removal
    To remove bird excrement without causing scratches; apply very little surface pressure, dusting with long strokes in one direction only, use a product that contains a surfactant; this will lessen surface scratching as they ‘lift’ dust etc into the media used avoiding surface friction (use a solution of Optimum no-rinse (ONR) diluted 1:20 / distilled water in a fine mist spray bottle) and allow to remain in place as this will soften debris and allow it to be removed

    Use a long nap micro fibre towel to ensure the debris that is lifted from the paint surface remains in the nap and not on the towel surface thereby causing surface marring. Shake the towel occasionally to ensure any particles picked up will drop out rather than come to the surface while you’re using it.

    Do not scrub hardened/dried excrement residue, birds use gravel to help digest their food so grit and sand are some of the major components, which can cause scratching as it is very abrasive and will scratch the paint surface. Once it softened (re-liquefied) it enables their removal with less likelihood of damage to the paint surface Do not use on a hot paint surface (soon after driving) as this will cause streaking
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    If you've washed it off and it's left a mark then the likelyhood is it's etched into the clearcoat buddy, a bit of elbow grease with a cleanser like SRP and it should remove the oxidisation, if that fails then you may need to use an abrasive polish, the menzerna range is a good one on VAG paint. What protection do you use on your paintwork? May be worth investing in some good quality wax or sealant, collinite 476s is a top protector, or finishkare 1000p. It will stop the Bird poo reacting so quickly with the paint.
    HTH,
    Neil
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    thanks for your advise, its only slight. but i know its there.

    i will give the products you advised a go hunty, who do advise as suppliers??

    philip
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    EASY!!! Lakes light cut pad and Menzerna 203s. Takes literally 5 mins!
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    Use the least abrasive product first-
    1. Use a chemical paint surface cleaner (Z-PC Fusion Dual Action Paint Cleaner)
    2. Try to dissolve the surface/etched deposits trying one or more of the following;
    a) Use a 2:1 or stronger solution of distilled water/distilled white vinegar (Acetic acid)
    b) Try a 2:1 solution of distilled water/Isopropyl Alcohol (adjust ratio as required)
    c) Or equal parts distilled water/distilled white vinegar/Isopropyl alcohol.
    3. Clean the effected surface with Klasse All-In-One or Zaino Z-PC Fusion Dual Action Paint Cleaner
    4. Use detailing clay to remove any `hard' surface granules
    5. Use a machine polish (Optimum Polish or Optimum Compound) and a cutting (LC White, Orange or Yellow) foam pad (speed # 4- 5.0) to level the surface
    6. For Ceramiclear or other hard clear coats substitute Menzerna for machine polish; PO 203 S - Power Finish
    7. Use the least aggressive polish/foam pad first, if this doesn’t remove the problem step-up to a more aggressive polish / foam pad set-up
    8. Wet-sand with 2000, 2500 or 3000 grit finishing paper
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    Avian bomb First Kit- use a 1:20 Optimum No-Rinse (ONR) / distilled water solution in a fine mist spray bottle. The surfactants it contains encapsulate and trap bird and insect excrement, dry surface dust, or light dirt particles making them virtually non-abrasive and it can be used without causing scratches (check contents periodically as heat will evaporate the contents if stored in the cars trunk).. Apply with a long nap micro fibre towel using very little surface pressure, dusting with long strokes in one direction only. For stubborn stains, soak the micro fibre towel and allow it to remain i n place for a few minutes and then wipe away the debris.
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    Menzerna 203S + Lake Country Light Cut Hand Pad - Definitely the best starting point for an acid etching problem like this! :yes:
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    Kitchen roll soaked in hot water, place on bird poo, leave for 10 mins and then wipe off !!. Worked for me for years :o.k:
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