I see many posts on this and other forums regarding 4WD vs RWD vs FWD but haven't seen any posts where anyone seems to be on the same planet as me. The motoring press same to all sit on the same planet as well (planet BMW). To me handling is how predictable a car responds to your input. Everyone else seems to think it corresponds to cornering grip. How many people agree with me! On a smooth track, with low speed corners etc I would probably want RWD, but in the real world, with trees and walls 6 foot away, uneven surfaces etc I easily prefer 4WD. Every high powered RWD car I have had a play with on the road has been left wondering where all their 'handling' is as I disappear into the distance on the twisties in my underpowered S3. Top of the pile for real handing I have driven I would put the Peugeot 106 Gti (FWD), second the 306 Gti (FWD), third the Ferrari 355 (RWD), fourth EVO 6 (4WD). All the beemers I have driven seem soft and skitty except the latest M3, which was OK. For driving fast on uk roads however I can't think of a better car than an EVO, S3, Subaru etc. Anyway, to round off my long rant, everytime I drive an Audi Quattro, be it 1.9 diesel or whatever, I come out thinking 'what a car!' (except the new A3 3.2). Everytime I drive a beemer, I come out thinking 'what do people see in these things?' Is it just me? Should I keep off the beer?