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Discussion in 'A3/S3 Forum (8L Chassis)' started by Paradox1, Jun 12, 2013.

  1. [Dave B]
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    LOL, It's pleasing to see my comments don't go unnoticed. I'll keep up the good work since it also pleases you so much.

    Glad to be of service.
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    How you can say what you said and mean what you just wrote is far beyond me.

    For reference I showed two different people your post for an opinion before I posted, and one after. Because I wasn't sure if I was being an insensitive penis, or whether you were being a twat. All three thought that what you said was suggesting I was irresponsible, two before seeing my reply. But whatever floats your boat.

    I am not a driving god, but A3's are literally so good that a child could drive one quickly.
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    Jesus, how the hell is this still going on?
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    Handbrake in the middle of that turn Jase? Are you mad?! lol

    Thanks for the Vid by the way, I should buy you a drink! :beerchug:
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    It's neverending mate, just like the vid below! :laugh:

    [​IMG]
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    Did you just keep her planted the whole way through jojo? Wouldn't mind seeing the next few seconds after if the full clips on YouTube anywhere?
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    Yeah let's do it :thumbsup:

    Just out of interest what is the book weight of your TQS Phil?
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    Most of the above is the Recaro's lol...

    I love my Recaros... just need a bigger turbo for S3's ;P

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    fair bit of difference then. Plus we've all added and removed certain bits to/from our cars.
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    Dem figures int rite blud.

    At all.

    Nowhere near.

    Those figures would say my car has 208BH/Ton. Which it doesn't.

    An A3 is more like 1220KG's, a TQS more like 1380 and an S3 more like 1470.
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    Post deleted - I can't read usernames :blush:
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    I`ll add you to the list. I have many drinks coming my way at inters lol.
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    Go read your sticker and let me know then fool.

    Mine says 1464
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    To be fair, I think he was replying to Karl, not you!?
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    Phil`s on standard clutch isnt he? Couple of launches and it`ll be trashed. Westy will launch at 6k all day.
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    Stop stirring it up man ;)

    I'm trying to calm the situation and you keep turning up the heat.
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    LOL, cheers dude, mental note, consume more coffee before posting before 10am!
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    Im not stiring anything just laying some extra info into the debate lol.

    I havent turned up the heat. All the heats coming from Superjew.
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    And in the mean time, Marty slopes off and buys a beemer.... :blush:
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    Lol could you imagine!

    causes all this debating then turn round like, im off lads, going to bimmerforums now lol
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    I told you to buy an E36 M3 yesterday.

    You know what you really need Marty?......

    A Nissan Pulsar.

    Haha
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    I like BM's but not enough to own one. I driven a pulsar,was stupid fast, track car, roll cage etc but looks like sh1te lol
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    LMFAO- such a small world this....

    Pretty sure I was chatting to you last night I think on FB VAG talk about my mates Jazz blue AGU Golf GTUI Martin that I put up.....?
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    Nah wasnt me mate, I was chilling with cool and the gang...
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    ^flol.
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    Two Matins...both with golf's....in the SE region and looking to get another car/replace current one...

    Seems like you're so cool that people even want to be you dude! haha
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    Youll be suprised.. when im not signing autographs I have to deal with inpresonators all the tme. such is life

    My name marty, I stacked the golf and need something with a 1.8T.

    I must say thouhg, after Phils review on page 3(stop being dirty) Its even more tempting to go for a quattro now
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    I know the Martin you mean, he is a really nice lad. Full of enthusiasm, unable to type.

    Martin O'connor I want to say.
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    That's the chap Jardo....

    Yeah he was really helpful with the comments on the pic I posted, as I haven't got a clue about the AGU lump and the layout of the hardware tbh....

    I just know I bloody want his large port head and inlet manifold :D haha
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    Ah ok, ya bumba clart.

    Cheers.

    Good to know.

    I've always seen the S3 marked as 1420kg. Surely it can't be more :/ The difference between a TQS and an S3 did surprise me, considering the difference has to be the seats and a few other minor bits ?

    What's your source?
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    My S3 is 1480kg.....took it on a weighing bridge round the corner from me just after Xmas.

    That was with 1/3rd of a tank of fuel....original S3 17 Ronal alloys with winter rubber on, SAI pump on the car, sunroof and without me in it..

    Each S3 is going to be a different weight and at a guess that could be around 50kgs difference depending on the spec of the car. I wouldn't rely on the sticker on the back tbh because as said above, you may have added/removed things - and I'm not even sure what the weight on that sticker is related to in terms of; with full fluids or without?
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    I do believe that is dry weight.
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    No argument intended here....

    When I fitted the S3 seats immediately after I could physically feel the weight, my S3 leathers weigh an easy 40kg's more than the cloth sport seats I took out. The pimpness of them outweighs that though.

    Phil could feel the difference in saving the weight in his TQS as well.

    Theoretically you could get an S3 to the weight of a TQS just by down spec'ing it. And then weight saving over that.

    I think 1320 would probably be the lowest weight achievable for an S3, realistically. Would be a weapon if you could.

    You could go lower though, S3 bumpers are considerably heavier than A3 bumpers, leather door cards, arm rests etc, glass weighs a ton.
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    If I went to town on my S3 I'd swage out all the panels, replace the door cards with carbon fibre, remove the carpets, sound deadening, the lot an I think a lot more weight could be shed. My mate managed to swage out 25kgs in body panel bits alone on his track M3 ;)
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    I guess a sunroof makes a difference too. Bad place to have weight so high up as well. Not sure I could go to the level of perspex windows though. The reason I got the S3 is the nice black and leather interior (not boggo spec) and it's quick and AWD. Might not be the quickest but as much as you hate it, telling people you have an S3 sounds way better than an A3.
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    yeah that's ridiculous the difference between TQS and S3 I need to shed some weight really shocked that a car so small can weigh nearly 1.5 tone I had a Volvo v70 d5 that didn't weigh that lol even the golf is 200kg lighter wtf
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    Yeah I lost ~100kg ish from my 205 but then it was just 2 seats and a steering wheel in the end:

    IMG_1421.jpg
    engine2.jpg
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    Link to full vid is in my Sig mate.
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    Cheers :)

    Should have really used my nod and seen that in your sig! Duhhhhhhh! :jester:

    Just as I thought....entry was superb and looks great...it's just a bit shaky and not so tidy on the way out - so bloody hard to get 1.5 tonnes of S3 in shape after going sideways!

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