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*** GROUPBUY: Welldone HID for Audi A3 8P ***

Discussion in 'A3/S3/Sportback (8P Chassis)' started by blazedani, Oct 8, 2013.

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    OK Dave.

    Updated!


    1. npace (vortex) / Dr. NP --> A38P headlights
    2. jbrehm (vortex)
    3. Worthlessbackup (vortex)
    4. Jon TDI (vortex)
    5. blazedani --> OEM - H7 6k
    6. smurfworth --> A38P - H7 6k
    7. Dvapower --> OEM - H7 6k
    8. Dvapower --> OEM - H7 6k
    9. MattKeating --> OEM
    10. MisterJJ --> WG04 - H7 6k
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    Would be awesome if well done supplied h7r lights. Which are designed for reflector housings and as a result get good reviews of good beam patterns and not as dazzling as the h7 bulbs.

    Any chance you could ask for H7R's to be developed?
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    Thanks for the info. I really don't want to be blinding on-coming traffic -hence trying to find the best method to getting this done, and I dont have the cash at the moment for full auto-leveling systems. So I guess projector style lights will be the first part...

    Thanks, count me in :)
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    I will deffinatly have a set, but im not sure which to choose?
    Clearly i would prefer the cheaper option, but in reality bot the sets are going to have the same bulbs and be EXACTLY the same right? or would the OEM ballasts be a bit better in starting up or whatever?

    Any input would be helpful! but put my name down with a ? for now! :p

    JJ
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    I'm down for a set of well done 8P A3 H7 xenon bulbs/ballasts for my '13 (facelift).
    BTW, another difference between the Wellsone Lights and the OEM lights is that the Wellsone ballasts fit INSIDE the headlamps. This is great when hiding it from your local dealership when doing warranty work. Mainly, because you don't have to drill any wholes.
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    That is useful, but im needing to buy new aftermarket headlights anyway, so probably wouldnt fit, i was going to get these that someone linked on here.
    HEADLIGHTS AUDI A3 03-08 DAYLIGHTS LTI - Audi - Headlights Europe Cars - Headlights - Tuning Carbon Hoods Shop

    Whats anyones opinion? after getting some chrome indicator bulbs obviously.

    JJ.
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    I want a OEM H7 6000ºk!


    1. npace (vortex) / Dr. NP --> A38P headlights
    2. jbrehm (vortex)
    3. Worthlessbackup (vortex)
    4. Jon TDI (vortex)
    5. blazedani --> OEM - H7 6k
    6. smurfworth --> A38P - H7 6k
    7. Dvapower --> OEM - H7 6k
    8. Dvapower --> OEM - H7 6k
    9. MattKeating --> OEM
    10. MisterJJ --> WG04 - H7 6k
    11. maapah --> OEM - H7 6000ºk
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    Updated!

    The A3 Facelift in Europe needs a metal adaptor to fit the bulb in the OEM halogen headlight.
    Please, confirm if your american A3 needs as well.


    1. npace (vortex) / Dr. NP --> A38P headlights
    2. jbrehm (vortex)
    3. Worthlessbackup (vortex)
    4. Jon TDI (vortex)
    5. blazedani --> OEM - H7 6k
    6. smurfworth --> A38P - H7 6k
    7. Dvapower --> OEM - H7 6k
    8. Dvapower --> OEM - H7 6k
    9. MattKeating --> OEM
    10. MisterJJ --> WG04 - H7 6k
    11. maapah --> OEM - H7 6000ºk
    12. ny tdi --> A38P - H7 (A3 Facelift - US)
    13. JJ.Foulds --> A38P or OEM ?
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    Yes, They will offer discount for the Xenon, Bixenon & LED Bixenon headlights as well.
    I'm waiting for the discounts to post them on the forum.

    I add you on the list & I'll keep you posted about any news on the headlights price


    1. npace (vortex) / Dr. NP --> Headlights
    2. jbrehm (vortex)
    3. Worthlessbackup (vortex)
    4. Jon TDI (vortex)
    5. blazedani --> OEM - H7 6k
    6. smurfworth --> A38P - H7 6k
    7. Dvapower --> OEM - H7 6k
    8. Dvapower --> OEM - H7 6k
    9. MattKeating --> OEM
    10. MisterJJ --> WG04 - H7 6k
    11. maapah --> OEM - H7 6000ºk
    12. ny tdi --> A38P - H7 (A3 Facelift - US)
    13. JJ.Foulds --> A38P or OEM ?
    14. H4ldex --> Headlights (LED Bixenon)
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    Im after the A38P headlights, list updated

    1. npace (vortex) / Dr. NP --> Headlights
    2. jbrehm (vortex)
    3. Worthlessbackup (vortex)
    4. Jon TDI (vortex)
    5. blazedani --> OEM - H7 6k
    6. smurfworth --> A38P - H7 6k
    7. Dvapower --> OEM - H7 6k
    8. Dvapower --> OEM - H7 6k
    9. MattKeating --> OEM
    10. MisterJJ --> WG04 - H7 6k
    11. maapah --> OEM - H7 6000ºk
    12. ny tdi --> A38P - H7 (A3 Facelift - US)
    13. JJ.Foulds --> A38P or OEM ?
    14. H4ldex --> Headlights (LED Bixenon)
    15. sumerz - A38P Headlights
    16.
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    I registered on here from vortex just to give a thumbs up! Keep us posted on the cost of the complete headlight package! I'm already on the list Daniel, but I'm wanting 6k for the temp and headlights, once pricing becomes available.
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    Is there any h4 hids that do low and hi? Need a set for a golf mk2
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    Not to my knowledge - factory ones do it with electro-mechanical shutters - if you think about it, the time for HIDs to reach full output would make it hard to do - by the time you got full power on main beam, you'd probably have to dip again.

    A lot of OEM (and the dazzly ones you want) use halogen for the main beams to supplement the HIDs.

    My OEM Mondeo HIDs were dip only, the mains were halogen.

    My OEM Jag HIDs were bi-xenon for the outers - a shutter moved the beam, but the inners (main beam only) were halogen.
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    There certainly are H4 bi-xenon kits out there, they also use a solenoid driven mechanical shutter, I have installed two of them for friends, ebay specials as they were non canbus vehicles with no light warning systems. A quick search on Ebay will turn them up.

    Dave
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    There are H4 "Bixenon" bulbs that make low & high beam with a magnetic system.

    They are really fast changing from low to high beam if the bulb is already on. (similar to OEM systems)
    If the bulb is off it takes some time to warm up the bulb until it gives the 100% light output.

    One of the advantages of the Welldone H4 HID is that there is no battery harness, relays or extra cables.
    You can plug the ballast into right into the H4 connector and it just works.

    This cables to power the ballast from the H4 connector are sold by some companies for an extra £30, while you get it with the stock H4 Bixenon welldone kit.


    The H4 HID kits other companies sell must be power from the battery which makes the installation more complicated & it may give bulb error in some cars dashboards. (since there is 0 consume on the headlight)

    [​IMG]



    (battery harness that comes with almost any H4 Bixenon HID kit)
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    Updated list!

    1. npace (vortex) / Dr. NP --> Headlights
    2. jbrehm (vortex)
    3. Worthlessbackup (vortex)
    4. Jon TDI (vortex) --> D2S 4300K bulbs for A38P
    5. blazedani --> OEM - H7 6000k
    6. smurfworth --> A38P - H7 6000k
    7. Dvapower --> OEM - H7 6000k
    8. Dvapower --> OEM - H7 6000k
    9. MattKeating --> OEM
    10. MisterJJ --> WG04 - H7 6000k
    11. maapah --> OEM - H7 6000ºk
    12. ny tdi --> A38P - H7 (A3 Facelift - US)
    13. JJ.Foulds --> A38P or OEM ?
    14. H4ldex --> Headlights (LED Bixenon)
    15. sumerz --> A38P Headlights
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    swift --> A38P or OEM? 8000k
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    Holy Thread Hijack Batman - you (I) live and learn.
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    Was writing the post when my browser got stuck & there was no reply by then.
    I had to start all over again & didn't saw the other post until I posted that reply.

    Guess 2 replies are better than none.
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    When is the group buy going to get the prices and codes ready?
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    Hi please put my name down for some oem ones. Do you happen to know if there is a bi xenon kit available?
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    im getting impatient! :p
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    Hopefully it will sort out my crackling radio reception :)
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    Sure it will.

    Since they don't have high voltage cables you should be able to get the same AM/FM quality you had before.


    You have 2 options:

    - HID in your actual headlights (H7, H9, H11....)
    if you have the R8 LED headlights with H9 they will act as "Bixenon"

    - HID headlights Xenon, Bixenon or Bixenon + LED


    Is your AUDI A3 pre-facelift (2003-2009) or facelift (2010-2013) ?

    Do you have OEM halogen headlight or did you replace them with some projector headlight?




    Updated list!

    1. npace (vortex) / Dr. NP --> Headlights
    2. jbrehm (vortex)
    3. Worthlessbackup (vortex)
    4. Jon TDI (vortex) --> D2S 4300K bulbs for A38P
    5. blazedani --> OEM - H7 6000k
    6. smurfworth --> A38P - H7 6000k
    7. Dvapower --> OEM - H7 6000k
    8. Dvapower --> OEM - H7 6000k
    9. MattKeating --> OEM
    10. MisterJJ --> WG04 - H7 6000k
    11. maapah --> OEM - H7 6000ºk
    12. ny tdi --> A38P - H7 (A3 Facelift - US)
    13. JJ.Foulds --> A38P or OEM ?
    14. H4ldex --> Headlights (LED Bixenon)
    15. sumerz --> A38P Headlights
    16.
    swift --> A38P or OEM? 8000k
    17. pz1982 --> OEM
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    Do we get more discount the more we get? :p
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    Pm'd you mate :)
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    I'd be interested in the Hella LED Bi Xenons. Silly question, but these are RHD right? I know with the new headlights there is no way of switching between RHD and LHD anymore and both versions have different serial numbers.

    Also do you reckon they will charge VAT for shipments outside of Europe (they shouldn't...)? I am in Australia :)
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    I'd like to order some H7's @ 6000k whats the process?
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    Updated list!


    1. npace (vortex) / Dr. NP --> Headlights
    2. jbrehm (vortex)
    3. Worthlessbackup (vortex)
    4. Jon TDI (vortex) --> D2S 4300K bulbs for A38P
    5. blazedani --> OEM - H7 6000k
    6. smurfworth --> A38P - H7 6000k
    7. Dvapower --> OEM - H7 6000k
    8. Dvapower --> OEM - H7 6000k
    9. MattKeating --> OEM
    10. MisterJJ --> WG04 - H7 6000k
    11. maapah --> OEM - H7 6000ºk
    12. ny tdi --> A38P - H7 (A3 Facelift - US)
    13. JJ.Foulds --> A38P or OEM ?
    14. H4ldex --> Headlights (LED Bixenon)
    15. sumerz --> A38P Headlights
    16. swift --> A38P or OEM? 8000k
    17. pz1982 --> OEM
    18. Raphster --> A38P - H7 6000K
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    What are the main differences between OEM and A38P?
    Brightness?
    Start up time?
    etc
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    This is what i was asking, still waiting for an answer if there is one!
    other than the price! :p
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    This was already replied in the first page.

    The brightness will be aprox the same.
    The OEM ballast gives the best quality which means:
    - faster start up
    - longer life & more reliable.
    - more yellow - white color at the same ºK


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    Updated list!


    1. npace (vortex) / Dr. NP --> Headlights
    2. jbrehm (vortex)
    3. Worthlessbackup (vortex)
    4. Jon TDI (vortex) --> D2S 4300K bulbs for A38P
    5. blazedani --> OEM - H7 6000k
    6. smurfworth --> A38P - H7 6000k
    7. Dvapower --> OEM - H7 6000k
    8. Dvapower --> OEM - H7 6000k
    9. MattKeating --> OEM
    10. MisterJJ --> WG04 - H7 6000k
    11. maapah --> OEM - H7 6000ºk
    12. ny tdi --> A38P - H7 (A3 Facelift - US)
    13. JJ.Foulds --> A38P or OEM ?
    14. H4ldex --> Headlights (LED Bixenon)
    15. sumerz --> A38P Headlights
    16. swift --> A38P or OEM? 8000k
    17. pz1982 --> OEM
    18. Raphster --> A38P - H7 6000K
    19. TheAnticitizen1 --> A38P or OEM - H7 6000K
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    Another user from Vortex wants to join the GB.


    1. npace (vortex) / Dr. NP --> Headlights
    2. jbrehm (vortex)
    3. Worthlessbackup (vortex)
    4. Jon TDI (vortex) --> D2S 4300K bulbs for A38P
    5. blazedani --> OEM - H7 6000k
    6. smurfworth --> A38P - H7 6000k
    7. Dvapower --> OEM - H7 6000k
    8. Dvapower --> OEM - H7 6000k
    9. MattKeating --> OEM
    10. MisterJJ --> WG04 - H7 6000k
    11. maapah --> OEM - H7 6000ºk
    12. ny tdi --> A38P - H7 (A3 Facelift - US)
    13. JJ.Foulds --> A38P or OEM ?
    14. H4ldex --> Headlights (LED Bixenon)
    15. sumerz --> A38P Headlights
    16. swift --> A38P or OEM? 8000k
    17. pz1982 --> OEM
    18. Raphster --> A38P - H7 6000K
    19. TheAnticitizen1 --> A38P or OEM - H7 6000K
    20. altesporsche (vortex) --> A38P or OEM ?
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    Do you have any infos on that or is the group buy only for UK peeps anyways?
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    1. npace (vortex) / Dr. NP --> Headlights
    2. jbrehm (vortex)
    3. Worthlessbackup (vortex)
    4. Jon TDI (vortex) --> D2S 4300K bulbs for A38P
    5. blazedani --> OEM - H7 6000k
    6. smurfworth --> A38P - H7 6000k
    7. Dvapower --> OEM - H7 6000k
    8. Dvapower --> OEM - H7 6000k
    9. MattKeating --> OEM
    10. MisterJJ --> WG04 - H7 6000k
    11. maapah --> OEM - H7 6000ºk
    12. ny tdi --> A38P - H7 (A3 Facelift - US)
    13. JJ.Foulds --> A38P or OEM ?
    14. H4ldex --> Headlights (LED Bixenon)
    15. sumerz --> A38P Headlights
    16. swift --> A38P or OEM? 8000k
    17. pz1982 --> OEM
    18. Raphster --> A38P - H7 6000K
    19. TheAnticitizen1 --> A38P or OEM - H7 6000K
    20. altesporsche(vortex)-->OEM H7 and H11 6000K (high and low beams) and Ecode housings if available (of course bulb will change)
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    Sorry, I didn't see your message.

    I don't have the info yet about the headlights. I'm expecting to get the info next week.



    1. npace (vortex) / Dr. NP --> Headlights
    2. jbrehm (vortex)
    3. Worthlessbackup (vortex)
    4. Jon TDI (vortex) --> D2S 4300K bulbs for A38P
    5. blazedani --> OEM - H7 6000k
    6. smurfworth --> A38P - H7 6000k
    7. Dvapower --> OEM - H7 6000k
    8. Dvapower --> OEM - H7 6000k
    9. MattKeating --> OEM
    10. MisterJJ --> WG04 - H7 6000k
    11. maapah --> OEM - H7 6000ºk
    12. ny tdi --> A38P - H7 (A3 Facelift - US)
    13. JJ.Foulds --> A38P or OEM ?
    14. H4ldex --> Headlights (LED Bixenon)
    15. sumerz --> A38P Headlights
    16. swift --> A38P or OEM? 8000k
    17. pz1982 --> OEM
    18. Raphster --> A38P - H7 6000K
    19. TheAnticitizen1 --> A38P or OEM - H7 6000K
    20. altesporsche (vortex) --> OEM H7 & H11 6000K (high and low beams) & Ecode housings if available (bulb will change)
    21. STYLEZAU --> Hella LED Bi Xenons
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    No worries, sounds good. Cheers!
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    so the a38p will be more blue? is this what your saying?

    JJ
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    Better ballasts/oem seem to make the bulb burn harder/brighter so the bulb will look less blue and more white/yellow for a given temperature.

    On another car of mine I have two same 5000k bulbs, but one is now bluer as I had to get a spare ballast to replace a broken one and it seems it's not as good quality.
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    Welldone ballast are good quality, that means they make the bulbs shine less blue than average or cheap HID kits.

    6000ºk are usually pure white with a good quality ballast.


    The Valeo ballast are even better so they make the bulbs shine more white/yellow.

    As an example I can tell you that a 6000ºk bulb with the Valeo ballast (OEM HID kit) looks sightly yellow.

    [​IMG]


    (this pic is from AudiSport-iberica forums, it shows an early test on the OEM HID kit with a 6000ºk bulb, before the product was finished)
    [​IMG]

    As you can see the 6000ºk don't look blue at all.
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    Would it be possible to swap the bulb out for a 8000k for example? And it would work, or are hid's paired?
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