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Discussion in 'New A3/S3 (8V Chassis)' started by Itguy, Nov 14, 2013.

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    [Aug 4, 2014]
    Guys, your thoughts. I've noticed that when pushing on a medium to long corner, I hear a strong 'whooshin'g noise, and its pretty consistent. It sounds like air whooshing (and not just outside air passing over the wingmirrors or anything) but quite forced. Am I being dumb here? Any thoughts? Is it the haldex system, suspension, massive system failure waiting to happen?

    It has no effect that I'm aware of on performance, car goes round corners like its on rails, but just very noticable and not something I've ever heard on any other car I've driven?
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    [Aug 4, 2014]
    Not turbo whistle?

    Give us more info to try and replicate it, eg: what gear, what speed etc.
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    [Aug 4, 2014]
    No definitely not a whine, much more like air whooshing, almost like you get with a rush of blood to the head. Got it the other day doing a medium corner, decent commitment in 3rd gear at about 40mph
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    [Aug 4, 2014]
    Now done 1500miles as just driven it across France in one go overnight.
    Lots of varied speeds between 60 and upwards, car is very quick accelerating from motorway speeds yet still returned 35.7 over 800miles. Saw >400miles out of my third tank so pretty impressed, plenty of high speed drags on the autoroute chasing fast diesels and plenty of looks when stopped as there aren't many petrols let alone S* Audi's in France........haven't been above 5.5k revs yet but now I have enough miles on it just a matter of time. Car hasn't used any oil, build quality is excellent and really chuffed with it and regard it as a very good value car which should do me for a few years yet.

    Other than the pedals, the storage under the arm rest should have a light! Could also do with a 7th gear overdrive as there is easily enough torque to pull a tall gear.
    As for the quality of the damping, on French roads it is just fine
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    [Aug 7, 2014]
    Finally got around to sorting the rusting hubs, couple of hours, bit of sanding and a tin of hammerite later...

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    [Aug 7, 2014]
    On my S3, the hub (bit between the wheels and brake disc) which people complain about getting rusty therefore want to paint it is already pre-coated in a silver-ey type finish. Is this an improvement and/or standard now?
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    There is a name for it (can't remember though) but it's a protective coating from the factory. It wears off in time. Mine is starting to wear off after 1000 miles and 3 months.

    Going to paint mine silver in the next few weeks.
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    ^ Dacromet

    :)

    Which is a really good coating, but it requires the bare metal to be thoroughly de-greased, otherwise it won't last .....
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    [Aug 10, 2014]
    I've read a few dislikes regarding the new throttle pedal. I have to say mine has a nice 'weight and feel of resistance' to it and nothing like what people have said. There's enough feel to prevent any unwanted movement over bumps/ramps etc and the position is as good as the old style bar. All imo of course.
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    [Aug 10, 2014]
    As a matter of interest did the rattle stop when you opened the window by an inch or more? Have you have that repaired yet as mine is doing it on the driver side when closed.
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    [Aug 12, 2014]
    OK - so below is my update after 3 months of ownership with my S3 SB.

    1008 miles driven since new - DIS reading of average fuel consumption over total miles 32.8 mpg.

    The good:
    1) Quality. This is a quality product full stop. I think it feels and looks more expensive than it is. Everything you touch is excellent quality. Paint, plastics, metals - all excellent. I have every confidence it will still look and feel fairly brand new after 3 years.

    2). Pace, handling and LC. Wow. It's super quick. For a 5 door family hatchback it's just ridiculous how it builds speed. Understated but very effective. LC is fairly brutal too. Have found cornering speeds can be much higher than what I am used to in front wheel drive cars.

    2) Noise. Getting louder with the more miles I put on it. It's actually much louder than I ever thought it would be. It does turn heads which I didn't expect. Neighbour keeps moaning at me how noisy it is on start up (he does shifts - sleeps a lot during the day). Full throttle upshifts are a joy too.

    3) The "small" screen. It's fine and I actually think it is integrated very well in its frame. MMI fantastic system in general. If you have anxiety about upgrading it - don't, unless you really have to have all the connect / full nav stuff. Save some £££.

    4) Alacantra / mono-pur. Looks and feels great. Very happy with the look it gives the cabin. Just increases the premium feel further. Think it's better than the full leather option.

    5) Looks / colour. I probably went against the trend going for a solid white. I have experience with Amalfi and find its a very hard wearing colour. Regarding the looks - I know the S3 is slightly understated, but have had a surprising amount of people stop me to compliment me on the S3. Mine seems to get a fair bit of attention / love due to the colour also.

    Not so good:
    1) LED headlights. Not convinced by them if I am honest. £750 could have been spent elsewhere. Don't think they are brighter either. They do look fabulous mind and give the nose excellent presence. Not sure they are worth it for cosmetic reasons alone though?

    2) High speed damping. Not the best in my book. I have many country roads where I live and at certain (ahem) speeds the car does bounce a fair bit on bumpy roads. Hit my head on the headlining a few times.....

    3) C0Z S3 alloys. Seem brittle and prone to chips where they are painted. Although they look great its the only part of the car I think may struggle to stay looking fresh long term.

    4) Steering. Hateful in comfort and auto. Way to light. Hard to be accurate on slow driving around mini roundabouts or car parks. Dynamic is nice and heavy so perfect for me as I like that. I do "get" what the journos highlight about the steering.

    The very bad:
    1) "bumpy" seat base bolsters. Noticed it on day one. Can you see it on the attached picture? Seems like the leather was not pulled taught to the Alacantra when stitched, Dealer has looked at it and said it doesn't pass the warranty threshold for a swap out. They could attempt a repair with a special kit, but not confident it would be any better (maybe even worse). It's now been noted against the car - if it gets worse they will then swap them out.

    [​IMG]

    2) Nothing else! Although a few niggles it's the best car I've ever owned and love it!
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    [Aug 12, 2014]
    Great review Pulp. Cant wait to get m SB as well and like you I do agree the SB looks a lot better than people give it credit for. To me its a totally different look to the saloon and not necessarily a versus argument, its about what look you want. I am coming from a JCW hatch so I guess I am biased too!!
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    [Aug 18, 2014]
    4,500 miles in now. Average leapt up to 26.1mpg.
    Still finding it a relatively uninspiring/dull machine to live with.
    Not once have I wanted to get out in it and drive for the sake of it.
    Around 3 months until it departs.
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    [Aug 18, 2014]
    craigl...did you test drive the car before?
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    [Aug 19, 2014]
    Well, four weeks and approaching 1300 miles into S3 SB ownership, a few of my thoughts:

    Having come from two SEAT Leon Cupra’s, I was looking for something discrete, understated and not too ‘in your face’ as a replacement. My Daytona Grey S3 fits the bill perfectly, and unless you happen to be an Audi officianado, most people just see it as a ‘nice’ A3, which is how I like it. That said, within the past week two strangers have complimented me on the car!

    Positive:

    * Performance – I’ve not really totally opened it up yet, but from where I have explored it, it’s certainly a car to be reckoned with
    * Economy – I’m getting around 32mpg average on the daily commute, with a couple of longer journeys thrown in, which I’m fairly staggered at after the 26mpg Cupras!
    * Interior – It’s a nice place to be, and the Mono.pur, black inlays, privacy glass and lighting pack all add to this
    * Driveability – Doesn’t need to be ‘driven’ in the same way as the Cupra’s. Far more refined, less thrashy and almost drives itself – which is what comes from greater power and torque band.
    * Handling – no complaints here – it goes where it’s pointed. Much more fun than then Cupra’s, doesn’t need to be worked as hard, and surpisingly similar to OH’s A1 in this regard.
    * The low road tax band. (The DVLA refund of 8 months from the Cupra will pay for the S3 for a year)!

    Negative

    * I’m still messing about with the seating position trying to find a combination of every variant that won’t irritate an old sporting injury – symptoms similar to sciatica
    * A couple of times I’ve found the gearbox a bit notchy at low speeds
    * Ten days ago or so I started to notice a slight ‘clunk’ from the drivers door area. This only occurred on certain lumps and bumps and was not triggered by generally uneven or rutted road surfaces. I took everything out of the door pockets, but it still persisted. Having rung the dealer (and still waiting for my call to be returned – that’s actually a first) it’s disappeared over the weekend! The trouble is that I can’t be certain if it was from the window or lock mechanism (window could be open or closed – noise still present). I will get this checked.
    * Lastly – and it’s only a minor irritation, the lack of cabin storage/stowage pockets and hidey-holes!

    Undecided

    * I went for the 10 spoke titanium matt wheels (F38). I don’t particularly like the standard 5 spoke star and wanted something different, and although the F38 doesn’t seem particularly common, (at least around here) I’m not 100% certain it’s the right wheel for the car.

    Other than the above I love it, but can understand some of the comments earlier in this thread. I do get enjoyment from driving it, in fact a great deal of enjoyment, but at the end of the day it’s a functional, performing 21st century car. For grin factor, it’s my MG, my weekend toy, that really brings a smile to my face :)

    /sorry to interrupt the current 'conversation'
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    [Aug 19, 2014]
    Good write up M1ke H!

    Can you describe the window clunk in any more detail? Would you say it had a rattle to it like something rubbing against a seal?
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    [Aug 19, 2014]
    Yes, it goes away as soon as you open the window. The car went back to the dealer and they applied some kind of lubricant to the window seals which resolved the issue. But, just as per my last S3, a month later and the windows are rattling again when it's wet outside... they're going to give me a tube of this and I'll just do it myself. Which is the solution I had to endure with the last S3. Hmmmm...
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    [Aug 19, 2014]
    I hated it when I first got the car. I mean, properly hated it. Having driven Audis and Porsches for the last 12 years with a hinged pedal (from the floor) I found it very hard to get used to. I kept over-accelerating and was getting a lot of fatigue in my right ankle and calf on longer journeys. I've now covered just over 4000 miles in my S3 and am now completely used to it, but that did mean having to adjust how I sat to compensate for it. I still prefer the old design, which we still have in our second car, a Porsche. I note that all new Audis (e.g. new RS6, new TT) have this new design of pedal. I think it's a step backwards in terms of design, but there you go. I am used to it now and the same goes for the poor seating and steering wheel adjustment - although there are still occasions when I get annoyed by how high the steering wheel sits above my lap on what is its 'lowest' setting. Personally I think there's been a distinct bit of penny pinching going on in Audi's design department...
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    [Aug 19, 2014]
    Yeah we have discussed it before.....you need Gummi Pfledge (find it on Ebay under that name). Audi will give you the OEM version. Just keep liberally basting it and it will stop very soon. Doing it on all the seals - wind down the windows and spread it everywhere you see black seals. If you do it regularly it will build up so it doesn't keep happening.

    Something in your cleaning regime is drying out the seals or it's parked in direct sunlight quite a bit.....
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    [Aug 19, 2014]
    Good write up. Just to say that I had the same issues with the seating, but did settle in, but only at around 3000 miles of driving it. In the end I just found an OK position and stuck with it. After a few weeks, it 'became' comfortable, if that makes sense.

    I've got those wheels on my S3. On the 3 door, I think they really suit the car. I have had loads of favourable comments and personally, I am really pleased with them. Not so sure they look so good on the SB as that's more estate like in looks and I think suits some of the other wheel options a little better.

    Fuel consumption is for a revelation - I get around 33mpg average and have had just over 40mpg on some trips. Even if I am driving the car reasonably hard, it rarely drops below 28mpg. When you consider the performance it's very good. I had a TTS that averaged just 26mpg most of the time. In fact the TTRS I had averaged 30mpg. I think the 7th gear helped there...
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    The thing I noticed about the pedal is it wasn't the same as the previous model, but once you get used to it, it does not matter. Having been used to an N/A engine the power is just there, with the S3 it has to kick in but it does so very quickly at low revs and keeps on giving. I knew at this point once you get used to it, there is no issue.

    The auto box will sometimes faf about, but with my current car I just slip into S when needed, which happens instantly and I'm always at the right gear. The S3 was also the same, but with that much power I didn't need to drop into S!
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    Thanks for the various comments and inputs.

    @Pulp84 - the clunk sounds more 'metallic' than glass - if that makes sense?! It's just that to my ear it seems to be higher up the door than the lock mechanism, but then sound travels so the dealer will have it for a couple of days to try and fix this and also turn the wretched 'Komfort Blinken' off (or at least down to one flash).

    I do believe that a floor mounted accelerator pedal would help with the specific Audi seating arrangement (as it was on the SEAT), although I don't suffer the same with the MG, (but then the whole seating position is relatively lower). I'll give it another few weeks of both adjustment(s) and doing my leg exercises, and then see where we take it from there :)
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    [Aug 19, 2014]
    Ah OK - I think there has been some reports of some fixings that are loose in the door card.

    Agree regarding the accelerator position. Think though this is a result of the new MQB platform as they all have this fixing. Guess it's to do with cost....
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    [Aug 19, 2014]
    I did. Not for long enough to realise the cars inadequacies though.
    Not the first car I've not enjoyed and won't be the last.
    C'est la vie.
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    [Sep 3, 2014]
    Takes all sorts to make a world......, so here is my different take 6 months and nearly 6000 miles into S3 ownership.

    Nil faults
    Nil dislikes
    I still look forward to getting in it wherever I'm going and do just go for a drive / take long route for sake of it.
    Agree with the thread post likes and positives, non of others reservations give me real concerns, but it's a car, it ain't perfection.
    The acceleration and stronic 'barb' is insanely addictive. Only real indication is how quickly other cars become small in the rear view mirror.
    Holding the steering with interior lights and B&O on is a lovely place to be.
    Love the understated looks - maybe because I got the split personality Estoril.
    28.3 mpg overall, c39 on three 500 mile plus trips. First couple of miles lucky to see 20 mpg.
    Yet to see (15 months of looking) another one on the road (2 Golf R's tho')

    Ok, it's German, not Italian so not quite as radical, exciting to run your sponge over or in bends as the early Alfa GTV I had many years ago.
    Can I think of any another car I'd (realistically) prefer to own at this time - No.

    Enjoy yours.
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    [Sep 3, 2014]
    I am really surprised at how light the car feels, so responsive. The S tronic on this is excellent.

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