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FBMFSW fitted! (inc guide for mfsw to fbsfw)

Discussion in 'A3/S3/Sportback (8P Chassis)' started by ~RS~, May 13, 2011.

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    I finally bit the bullet and decided to try and fit in the TTS fbsw I have had sitting around for a couple months myself. After reading how easy it was on a few threads here and on other sites I gave it a go this afternoon.

    Here's what I was working with before retrofit:

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    It really is a doodle tbh, although you must have the correct tools namely:

    M12 spline bit as seen below:

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    ... and ratchet.

    Also needed are a T30 bit and matching tool.

    Once you have the correct tools and bits, before unplugging the battery you need to pop out 2 x tabs that will be at the 3 o'clock and 9 o'clock positions as pictured below by turning wheel until these are upright then they just pop out.

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    Pop these are out loosen the airbag screws that are under the tabs until the airbag is loose enough to come out, make sure the airbag doesn't drop out.

    Now disconnect battery and remove airbag unclipping the connectors- one goes into the slip ring and is a yellow connector it has an orange tab that is pulled toward you to release, do so carefully. Then there's another black one that pulls out easily.

    Back into car and time to use that M12 spline tool...

    Under the airbag you will find a screw that needs to be removed as seen below:

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    There are 2 marks on mine as it has been removed once before and I read this screw should only be removed and put back 4 times before needing to be replaced. Hence the marks for reference.
    So, this screw is removed using the M12 tool and once removed you can just lift off your old SW.

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    Just below the clear plug at the top of the image above you will see a line marked into the metal plate. This is inside the steering wheel, under this on the steering rack is another line used to align your wheels and steering wheel (SW). Ensure the line on the rack is as close to in the middle of the line on your steering wheel as possible for good alignment when fitting the new SW.

    Well now your SW is off it should look like this:

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    Simply stick your new SW on and walla!

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    Backtrack through the steps above and refit everything as it should be leaving you with an updated interior :yahoo:

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    Amazing what a SW can do to freshen up the interior of your car :)
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  3. N8
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    Different ball game and nice writeup...:wub:
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    looks great! remove the sline badge from your old steering wheel (put a screwdriver behind it and the badge will pop out) and put it in the flat bottom :)
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    Need me one of those....better start saving thats for sure!
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    Thanks guys, it sure is a nice mod. The fbsw takes a lil getting used to but it feels very nice to use.

    w'sup amar, finally got it done lol :)
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    I know where to come now to get mine done ....:lmfao:
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    [May 14, 2011]
    Cluster on the list Rich?
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    Love it, shame you need a mortgage for one.
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    I have had a cluster sitting about just a bit longer than I had the fbsw lol, just need to get it in and sorted by Audi. Did you get the milage sorted on your one N8? If so how much did it cost you?

    Lol warren, they are kinda expensive ay....I got mine for a fair price I reckon though. A lot cheaper than I see them going on ebay for anyways.
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    Centre bolt can be reused over & over, just audi & there ways state only either new or used number of times.
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    Good write up Rich .The wheels are pretty reasonable locally
    Its the airbag that costs :s
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    [May 25, 2012]
    Hi, does anyone know if this mod is plug & play on a '10MY 8P3 my dealer has told me there are issues with swapping the airbag that the ECU is not compatible (think he means modules) ? Hope it works as just bought one which is on its way to me!

    Thanks in advance.
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    [May 25, 2012]
    I changed over a MFSW to a FBMFSW yesterday on a 2011 car and had no issues at all... just swapped over the wheel and airbags and all was well...

    what wheel do you currently have and what wheel do you want to fit... please put up pics so you can get a proper answer!
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    I suspect you have a K steering controller, but thats irrelevant as its all dual stage, so as long as your fbmfsw airbag loom is for the 8P, then you'll be fine
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    Thanks both. Current wheel is MFSW so I'm ok in terms of the radio/phone controls - also added cruise recently so the module must be ok as NHN says. I will add pics when the new one turns up but part numbers are 8J0 419 091G for the wheel, ACF 11X 3K BYP for the airbag and 8J0 971 589H for the loom.
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    those part numbers seem fine, should be a simple swap over with no coding required.
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    Fitted yesterday just bolted straight on. Had the usual ESP warning at first but tht went away after a short drive. Also lost one touch down on the windows due to the battery being disconnected but that worked again on next start up. Thanks RS for the original post wouldnt have known about the M12 spline tool otherwise.
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    Hmm, after driving the car yesterday I think I'm one click or 5 degrees or so off from having the wheel correctly centred. Is there anything in VCDS that can address this or do I need to pop it off and adjust the position on the splines ?
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    Just move it to the center marked point on the spline & if its still not right, then you need the tracking sorted, as the center mark is where it should be anyway.
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    [Jun 5, 2012]
    good job. looks great. selling your old set up by any chance?
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    [Mar 16, 2013]
    The bit you have pictured is a ribe bit and not a spline, I've been out and got a set of what you pictured to find out its wrong haha
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    Mike, what picture are you referring to ?

    Before this last post of yours , the previous one was 12 months ago ish !
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    Looks awesome mate.

    Question though, my 57 S3 has the basic round steering wheel without MF buttons.
    What extra is needed if i fitted a FB S3 wheel with MF buttons?
    will it need programming or will it all just plug 'n' play.
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    Have you actually researched what is need for mfsw never mind fbmfsw ?

    Please do a search and you will find loads of threads on the subject. Assuming your car is manual then you will be looking at new steering module, wheel, airbag and wiring harness.

    When you say 'looks awesome mate' which picture are you referring to ? Please provide a link.
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    im referring to the finished article looking good.

    I have searched a few bits but I end up in a sea of new terms which I'm not used to. This is my first VAG coming from Vauxhall.
    I just thought whilst a thread similar was up I'd ask.
    I never realised it would be quite such a job to go from plain wheel to MFSW. One ill put on the back burner for now.

    Thanks.
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    OK mate, welcome to Audi. This thread started two years ago and many, many other threads on the subject have happened since !

    Budget on £1000 to do the flat bottom bit if your car does not have the correct steering module. The wheel and airbag will be in the region of £650 - £700 and the module £200. If you can find wheel and airbag on ebay then it will be cheaper but they're like rocking horse 's**t.

    Round mfsw could use your existing airbag and including module you would be looking at maybe £400 ish
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    [Mar 16, 2013]
    Corey you need the flat bottom wheel in your life, it looks so much better than the round one, it was one of the things on my spec list anyway, controls are handy too
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    [Mar 16, 2013]
    I was referring to the picture of a "spline" but it was not a spline
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    Maybe not at that price tho, you'd be better off taking a hacksaw to the bottom of your current wheel
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    [Mar 16, 2013]
    And this mod cost me 132 for the wheel
    220 airbag + 20 postage
    And 41.75 wiring harness

    413.75 total not bad, you can get a combo of wheel and airbag on eBay for 499
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    Which pic?
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    [Mar 17, 2013]
    On the first post, the op put up a picture showing a socket bit
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    Ahhh I'm with you now & agree, not even close to spline :)
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    I ordered a spline set, but it didn't arrive in time, so I went out n bought one comparing to the bit pictured, even the set had spline set written on it from BnQ. Taken it back and borrowed a friends set, really easy job to be fair, thanks to NHN for supplying my vcds, already paid for itself, cheers mate.
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    My pleasure & as I always say, the cost doesn't even enter your head once you start using it, pays for itself as everyone says in its 1st usage :)
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