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fabia vrs vs a3 TDi? confusing stats

Discussion in 'A3/S3 Forum (8L Chassis)' started by lewis88, Jun 8, 2010.

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    why is it that a fabia Vrs (130bhp) is faster than a a3 TDi (130bhp) even though the a3 weighs less than the fabia and has the same running gear. the specs are as follows:

    Audi a3 1.9TDi (130ps) 3 door
    Weight 1200 kg
    0-60 mph 10.2 s
    Power Output 128 bhp
    Torque 310 Nm
    Top Speed 127 mph

    Fabia vRS 1.9TDi (130ps) 5 door
    Weight 1315 kg
    0-60 mph 9.2 s
    Power Output 130 bhp
    Torque 310 Nm 229 lb-ft
    Top Speed 128 mph

    as far as I am aware these both have the same engine and gearbox, do these have different mapping? even so the vRS has no more peak torque so why is it so much quicker 0-60? the only thing I can think of is tyre sizes ( a bit wider on the skoda) and aerodynamics. can any one else explain this? all figures from parkers website.
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    id guess its the mapping..... although aerodynamics will play a part, dunno how big a part though cos it is a smaller car
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    you'll probably find its all manufacturer guff mate, as most know Audi usually always underestimate their power output, 0-62 times etc.
    sneaky (but clever) germans! :beerchug:
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    nah, must be down to gear ratios
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    the Octavia was down to ratios and map, they beat standard 180 bhp A3's easily!!
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    Had a wee play with one today no match at all would have thought an A3 tdi would have been a lot faster 0-60 and I'm sure the top speed is a bit more than 127mph talking from being in one doing over 130mph!
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    I'm curious about the weight of the Fabia vRS, that can't be right can it? It's based on the Polo chassis platform isn;t it?
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    i think it is Jo cos im sure the octavia is based on the A3...or sumat like that....theres a bizarre stist i know that much just cant rem which model :)
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    my mate has one that is mapped and that doesnt feel much quicker than mine, but the car does seem lighter and more nimble. i thought the gearing was the same other than larger alloys (wider too)? do they use the same gearboxes?
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    aero dynamics would come it to play more at top end rather than off the line. The weights would require confirm i.e. dry or wet. Thought the octavia used the A4/Passat floor pan? Id put the quicker 0-60 down to gearing and map
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    I'm pretty sure it's;

    Fabia -> Polo platform
    Octavia -> Golf Platform
    Superb -> Passat Platform.
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    yeah jo that ties in...i know theres a bit of a shocker in there somewhere with regards to what chassis are used
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    Like the size of the Golf and the size of an Octavia!
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    Think Jetta and Octavia.
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    Good point. Still amazing that you can get such a difference in car size from the same platform.
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    yeah but as all skoda customers say 'its an Audi underneath'

    mugs :)
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    Its Audi's cast offs yes,LOL
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    i just always come back with 'yes but with cheaper materials' which is kinda true :)

    cant be having a skoda driver thinking they have one up on us haha
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