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EDL - I cant spin wheels

Discussion in 'A4/S4 forum(B5 Chassis)' started by PhilR, Feb 17, 2006.

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    [Feb 17, 2006]
    Since ive had my 1.8t ive often wondered what stops the wheels spinning even in the wet. I registered on the audiuk site to establish what options my car has and amongst the list was EDL Electronic Diff Lock

    Has anyone elses car got this and can you turn it off in anyway. Theres no switch or anything and i assumed there would be a fuse but cant find mention of it in the user manual.

    Dont get me wrong its probably a decent safety feature and Its not that i want to do burnouts or the like i just want to have more control of the car as it often feels sluggish as and when it applies the front brakes in the wet.
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    [Feb 17, 2006]
    EDL can only be switched off via VAG-COM, and requires a bit of re-coding.

    I'll see if i can dig out the post i saw on it on another website.

    However, what you're experiencing sounds more like the ESP kicking in to me.
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    [Feb 17, 2006]
    Thanks!
    The car dosent have esp its a 98a4. if you could find the post that would be great
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    well thats a new one to me, i wish i had that, mine is alo a 98, spins up with ease even when its not wet. fwd. =)
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    [Feb 17, 2006]
    this looks like an interesting thread:

    VW Vortex thread.

    Also, be aware that disabling car safety features may void your insurance.
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    [Feb 17, 2006]
    The EDL is a waste of time, and will not stop you spinning your wheels... Sure there not a sever lack of power? lol

    RIch
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    [Feb 17, 2006]
    All those codes look complicated ! I had hoped there was another way to switch it other than software

    Im planning on getting mine chipped so im in two minds as to whether its a good thing to have. It litterally will not spin even if you drop the clutch in the rain Impressive but boring. So it might prove useful when its up to about 200 brake

    Severe lack of power ( /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif 150) is to be rectified soon by some means (chipping only or turbo upgrade decisions decisions)
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    [Feb 17, 2006]
    IMHO - electronic power cut (weather it be EDL TCS or any other similar) is worth leaving on for road use, it cuts power when traction is lost you can drive right up until that point as you please. if the wheels are spinning your not going to go any faster just waste rubber; so to keep the revs at a level you know the traction can handle would be the quickest your car can go, EDL or no EDL.

    i would invest money in improving traction, when you have the traction the ecu's will allow you to use it.
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    [Feb 17, 2006]
    Mine really spins up too!
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    [Feb 18, 2006]
    Get bigger wheels, with low pro tyres to stop it spinning up /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

    If its a fwd 1.8t, it should spin up beautifully, either that or your clutch is nackered! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif
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    Why would you want to spin your wheels? All that does is pi$$ away power, tyre tread & steering. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/noidea.gif
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    [Feb 18, 2006]
    Going back to my original post it was not my aim to be able to spin the wheels (not a spotty nova driver lol)

    I was merely looking for a way to turn the system off, Its hardly the most sophisticated of systems and, to me it feels as though it can thwart the drive

    I have all the Vagcom setup but messing around with the safety controls is not for me. Also from other comments it may prove useful in the longrun ie when the car gets remapped
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    I've also got a 1.8T and can easily spin the wheels by accident, like when trying to leave a junction too quickly!

    I've always assumed mine does not have traction control of any sort /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

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    [Feb 19, 2006]
    [ QUOTE ]
    I've also got a 1.8T and can easily spin the wheels by accident, like when trying to leave a junction too quickly!

    I've always assumed mine does not have traction control of any sort /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

    Kev.

    [/ QUOTE ]

    Sounds just like mine!
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    on an old 90 2.2 quattro my dad had you could turn the diff lock on and off.
    but if it was on it would turn off over 10mph anyway, i think its only really for driving in snow and mud.
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    My 1.8T spins far too easily - hate to think what it will be like when it is remapped !
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    [Feb 21, 2006]
    If you chose the right tyres, you wont spin the wheels even in first gear! Toyo Proxes T1-R, Goodyear Eagle F1's, or Falken FK-451

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    [Feb 21, 2006]
    Falken FK-451 are a really good tyre that what ive got on the 18s./ They can be a bit dodgy in the wet but that is normally the nature of sports tyres
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    If you chose the right tyres, you wont spin the wheels even in first gear! Toyo Proxes T1-R, Goodyear Eagle F1's, or Falken FK-451

    Rich

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    Really...... ? I wonder if my suspension is on it's way out then.... I have F1's (GS_D3) and mine spin - Ok the road may be greasy (not wet) but could my suspension be at fault and not pushing my wheels down onto the road ?
    When it is damp, I can be travelling in 2nd about 20mph, floor it to overtake and the wheels spin ?
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    Hmm... that shouldnt be. Im using Toyo proxes, and in the dry i can lay all 320bhp down through teh front wheels in 2nd gear, with it only VERY slightly scattering for traction a bit!

    Rich
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    [Feb 21, 2006]
    Mmmm - ok Rich...... Well car going in for MOT on Friday, so I might ask if they can check the springs / shockers... Thanks for that matey. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beerchug.gif
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    [Feb 21, 2006]
    cehck all the control arms too! known A4 weakness

    Rich
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    [Feb 21, 2006]
    Will Do...
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    [Feb 21, 2006]
    Hmm, may get mine looked into for that as well than, I feel mine spins quite easily. May just see if it's to do with the weather first, wait till the roads dry a bit more!
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    [Feb 21, 2006]
    Remapped, mine spin in 2nd on greasy roads... well not so much spin and dart from left to right.
    Always run eagle F1's...
    Same in the pug tho. (Lighter and about 170bhp)
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    Maybe its just an A4 thing. Jasons (JayB) A4 never used to have a traction problem and that was 200bhp with Toyo Proxes, and Eibach sportline springs.

    Rich
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    mine used to wheel spin bad in the wet or dry, then i got toyo proxes and it now only does it in the wet/ or round corners if i plant my foot.

    great tyres those. and cheap.
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    Get some big wheels, with low pros. Then all you'll do is spin the clutch plate up /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
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